Sidecar Racing

[sidecar bob]

13 or 14inch diameter? most of the modern F1 long bikes use 14 so if 14 was allowed it means a lot more old tyres coming through

Aprox what year did LCR go to 14 inch? I was aware the really new stuff was 14.
What sort of performance advantage would a bike with 14's have over the same bike with 13's?

[wildman]

There seems to be a bit of negativity regarding the proposed rules and formation of a pre 82 sidecar class, why? Good on you Sidecar Bob for kicking it off. My mate and i brought an old sidecar from Des James [ a kitset one with lots of parts missing] We have a Kawasaki gpz500 engine for it and were planing to put it together and use it to do track days to learn on before we move up and race on the Agip bike . Now we would have a class to race this sidecar in too, all we would need to do is fit a pre 82 engine [probably a 500 two stroke] cool. Ours will be running by August

[sidecar bob]

There seems to be a bit of negativity regarding the proposed rules and formation of a pre 82 sidecar class, why? Good on you Sidecar Bob for kicking it off. My mate and i brought an old sidecar from Des James [ a kitset one with lots of parts missing] We have a Kawasaki gpz500 engine for it and were planing to put it together and use it to do track days to learn on before we move up and race on the Agip bike . Now we would have a class to race this sidecar in too, all we would need to do is fit a pre 82 engine [probably a 500 two stroke] cool. Ours will be running by August

Yeah, maybe you can tell me why. I wonder if putting it up for public discussion may be a mistake. Perhaps a "here's the fuckin rules like them or not" approach would be better, but you try to include everyone & try to do what's best for all. There's always nay Sayers.
I'll polish them up in the next few weeks with the help of the people at the two South Island rounds I am attending & they will be gospel by the end of Feb at the latest.
It's pretty simple really, just build shit with materials & equipment & in the style of the pre 82 period.
It beggars belief that it even needs to have rules.

[nodrog]

There seems to be a bit of negativity regarding the proposed rules and formation of a pre 82 sidecar class, why? Good on you Sidecar Bob for kicking it off. My mate and i brought an old sidecar from Des James [ a kitset one with lots of parts missing] We have a Kawasaki gpz500 engine for it and were planing to put it together and use it to do track days to learn on before we move up and race on the Agip bike . Now we would have a class to race this sidecar in too, all we would need to do is fit a pre 82 engine [probably a 500 two stroke] cool. Ours will be running by August

august? what the swear word!

have you got the Agip bike yet?

[nodrog]

.... "here's the fuckin rules like them or not" ......

That's why I'm not in charge of anything, the public relations part of my brain has foetal alcohol syndrome.

[ellipsis]

, but you try to include everyone & try to do what's best for all.
.


...impossible situation...that's why there's rules...

[Kickaha]

Aprox what year did LCR go to 14 inch? I was aware the really new stuff was 14.
What sort of performance advantage would a bike with 14's have over the same bike with 13's?
I'm not sure what year they changed, supposedly they give better traction

We have 14 inch on ours which is a 1991 and they are an older style of wheel but I think it was a bit later than that when they intoduced them


...impossible situation...that's why there's rules...
You must have some old shit in your shed we could knock one up out of

[ellipsis]

You must have some old shit in your shed we could knock one up out of

... 'old shit', that would be correct, if not an understatement...

[wildman]

august? what the swear word!

have you got the Agip bike yet?

Paying the Agip bike off, be bringing it back up to Auckland in july. If i'm crap on it maybe i'll hang it on my lounge wall

[swarfie]

Paying the Agip bike off, be bringing it back up to Auckland in july. If i'm crap on it maybe i'll hang it on my lounge wall

Jeez you'd have to reinforce the wall somewhat....it's bloody heavy :crazy::yes:

[Drew]

Paying the Agip bike off, be bringing it back up to Auckland in july. If i'm crap on it maybe i'll hang it on my lounge wall

What the fuck?... Learn... If I'm no good...


Fuck all that shit. Get on, ride it like ya stole it. Sidecar racing in a but shell right there!

[Grumph]

Yeah, maybe you can tell me why. I wonder if putting it up for public discussion may be a mistake. Perhaps a "here's the fuckin rules like them or not" approach would be better, but you try to include everyone & try to do what's best for all. There's always nay Sayers.
I'll polish them up in the next few weeks with the help of the people at the two South Island rounds I am attending & they will be gospel by the end of Feb at the latest.
It's pretty simple really, just build shit with materials & equipment & in the style of the pre 82 period.
It beggars belief that it even needs to have rules.

No argument from me re anything there....But it is better to get any discussion and argument out of the way before putting it into the rule book.

i was only involved on the fringes of the preliminary discussions about the pre 82/89 rules. if I'd known how much work I was going to get as a result I'd have got deeper involved at that stage, lol...Those rules are really pretty simple but shit the cheating and just plain wrong interpretations...Not helped by the all in races oop north where running wider rims on your pre 82 to stay with the pre 89's is (or seems to be from here) common.

For what it's worth, there's a very good Z1 going to come on the market soon at what may be a good price. All the right bits in the motor and very quick on petrol....It'd make a great sidecar motor.

[nodrog]

...... Sidecar racing in a but shell right there!

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d6/d6435ac717ba8b85799b085fee40ccbc0f0809eaeeec61efd4 838b6d12639ed9.jpg

[Kyler]

Pre 82 specifically excludes the following: ... Suzuki GSX 1135

pardon my ignorance but what is a GSX1135?

[Grumph]

pardon my ignorance but what is a GSX1135?

Sold in North America as the GS1150. Effectively the 2nd generation 16V 1100 motor. 16inch fronts, lot of square tube in the frames and quite different shaped cam cover.
Allegedly came in some markets with welded cranks....
Most of the guys here are at the NZGP meeting for the next four days Ken. Local to me but I'm only going for a look tomorrow. Doubtless there'll be excuses and bragging appearing here soon.

[Kyler]

Sold in North America as the GS1150. Effectively the 2nd generation 16V 1100 motor. 16inch fronts, lot of square tube in the frames and quite different shaped cam cover.
Allegedly came in some markets with welded cranks....
Most of the guys here are at the NZGP meeting for the next four days Ken. Local to me but I'm only going for a look tomorrow. Doubtless there'll be excuses and bragging appearing here soon.

thanks! and that explains why it has been so quiet (and civilized) here lately. :laugh:

[Kickaha]

We 3 practice sessions today which went ok

Both Spike/Astrid and Aaron/Tracey apparently did engine swaps with Spike running a 1.41 on the new engine after the changeover

Barry/Robbie doing 1.44 on the Shorty

Some filthy dirty solo rider dumped oil on the track and the Ambulance also went out twice for solo riders

Pirate/Darren broke down in one session

[nodrog]

I hear Barry and Robbie are getting new leathers

https://thehunt.insnw.net/app/public/system/note_images/5272735/note_preview/e335e555806366f696ce972bc517f231.jpg

[Kickaha]

I hear Barry and Robbie are getting new leathers
Barry looks like he will be having surgery on his shoulder and Robbie is waiting for the results about his ankle

While my day was crap, it wasn't as crap as the day they had

[nodrog]

Barry looks like he will be having surgery on his shoulder and Robbie is waiting for the results about his ankle

While my day was crap, it wasn't as crap as the day they had

buggar, hope they havnt fucked up their IOMTT already.

[Kickaha]

buggar, hope they havnt fucked up their IOMTT already.

Fucking hell, that's not all that's getting fucked up so far there's been about 6-7 engine changes by three teams, swingers getting thrown on their arse and the two fastest sidecar teams in the country (excluding Nodrog) throwing themselves down the track, I'm not sure any other event I have been to has seen as many slabs owed in such a short time

Pretty eventful weekend so far and we still have a day to go

[Grumph]

Fucking hell, that's not all that's getting fucked up so far there's been about 6-7 engine changes by three teams, swingers getting thrown on their arse and the two fastest sidecar teams in the country (excluding Nodrog) throwing themselves down the track, I'm not sure any other event I have been to has seen as many slabs owed in such a short time

Pretty eventful weekend so far and we still have a day to go

stinking hot days with the Canterbury Nor'wester blowing always brings out the crazies.

[swarfie]

Fucking hell, that's not all that's getting fucked up so far there's been about 6-7 engine changes by three teams, swingers getting thrown on their arse and the two fastest sidecar teams in the country (excluding Nodrog) throwing themselves down the track, I'm not sure any other event I have been to has seen as many slabs owed in such a short time

Pretty eventful weekend so far and we still have a day to go

Haha...not sure how Nodrog ever got to that sort of status. Ruff bastard yes :clap: What's the body count so far? Are those 'two fastest sidecar teams" gunna be able to get back to it?

[Kickaha]

Are those 'two fastest sidecar teams" gunna be able to get back to it?
Barry has a broken collarbone after flipping yesterday and although I haven't seen it myself Lovell's outfit is apparently bent after a accident at T1 today

[sidecar bob]

Tracey is in a comfortable condition tonight after a major scare with neck injury. The paramedic handed me a pair of scissors & told me to negotiate with her where we were going to cut her leathers off.
It was a relationship building experience I don't care to repeat any time soon.
Thanks to all the people that txt with offers of support etc, & especially Robbie Shorter & Jo for giving a hand.

[Kickaha]

Tracey is in a comfortable condition tonight after a major scare with neck injury.

Good to see her wandering around at the track today

What a fucking crashfest 29+ over the event (not all in sidecars) and poxy solos the only classes dumping oil, funny it doesn't even get a mention

[nodrog]

Good to see her wandering around at the track today

What a fucking crashfest 29+ over the event (not all in sidecars) and poxy solos the only classes dumping oil, funny it doesn't even get a mention

I noticed something missing from the south island national round 1, south islanders.

where the fuck are all you soft cunts?

[Kickaha]

where the fuck are all you soft cunts?
Fuck knows, couple of them need a fucking good slapping for not being there, fucking piss poor effort by the local guys being no shows

[scrivy]

Fuck knows, couple of them need a fucking good slapping for not being there, fucking piss poor effort by the local guys being no shows
From the outside it looks like a conspiracy to ruin the Nationals........ :yes::facepalm:

Next they'll be called cunts.......

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=Kickaha;1130816056]
funny it doesn't even get a mention


Because 95% of the solo riders are not sad cunts like you and live on here needing to talk shit all fukin day long, see ya dick licker

[Kickaha]

Next they'll be called cunts.......
They already have been,amongst other things

Because 95% of the solo riders are not sad cunts like you and live on here needing to talk shit all fukin day long
More like because 95% of solo riders are hypocrital two face cunts or now that I think about it that could just be Shaun

Live on here? just spent four days at the track racing which is more than you'd be doing :motu:

[Drew]

Because 95% of the solo riders are not sad cunts like you and live on here needing to talk shit all fukin day long, see ya dick licker
You're a fucken thick little cunt eh. Solo riders bitch endlessly about oil spills, yet when we point it out some fucktard IHC drop out (that's you ya buck tooth little gnome) starts pointing a figure back and trying to turn it around like we're the bad guys again.

To sum up, eat my excrement and fucken die. COCK!

[sidecar bob]

Live on here? just spent four days at the track racing which is more than you'd be doing :motu:

That's unfair criticism. Shaun couldn't race last weekend because he can't re apply for an MNZ licence until 2019.

[sidecar bob]

Here is Aaron & Tracey's crash from several angles.


http://youtu.be/4cHU52YZbs4

[Kickaha]

Here is Aaron & Tracey's crash from several angles.
I'll make it easier for everyone

http://youtu.be/4cHU52YZbs4

[sidecar bob]

Hey Warwick, I had a great idea this week. Next time they want to run rounds of the nationals in the South Island, the north island teams running Nats can just slip you $200 each to come our way seeing as you're the only competitor down there that seems to be interested in racing, & you can come up north.
It will work out a lot cheaper & easier for all of us, & we can just forget about going south.

[jellywrestler]

Hey Warwick, I had a great idea this week. Next time they want to run rounds of the nationals in the South Island, the north island teams running Nats can just slip you $200 each to come our way seeing as you're the only competitor down there that seems to be interested in racing, & you can come up north.
It will work out a lot cheaper & easier for all of us, & we can just forget about going south.

you're forgetting Alex whose poked his nose up here a lot in the last couple of years.

[Kickaha]

as you're the only competitor down there that seems to be interested in racing, & you can come up north.
It will work out a lot cheaper & easier for all of us, & we can just forget about going south.
Yeah fuck knows about that, Goober has done BSTT and Wangas but despite using Darren said he doesn't want someone different on each time he goes out so doesn't do the local round available

Kai was entered and even had a write up in the program then for whatever reason pulls out a couple of days before the event and says he can't be bothered

Like we were talking on the weekend, can't make someone race if they don't want to


you're forgetting Alex whose poked his nose up here a lot in the last couple of years.
Last twelve months me and Alex are about even on total races done but he'd have a couple of extra trips North

[sidecar bob]

Kai was entered and even had a write up in the program then for whatever reason pulls out a couple of days before the event and says he can't be bothered


That's a bit disappointing given the level of support he received to come north a while back.
I heard it was because he didn't want to finish outside the top five.

[Shaun Harris]

They already have been,amongst other things

More like because 95% of solo riders are hypocrital two face cunts or now that I think about it that could just be Shaun

Live on here? just spent four days at the track racing which is more than you'd be doing :motu:



And fair play to you for standing bye what you say you are going to do. Shame the sidecar threads are now turning on there own and ripping holes in each other, but keyboard warriors do this all around the world. Have fun Drew.

[Pumba]

And fair play to you for standing bye what you say you are going to do. Shame the sidecar threads are now turning on there own and ripping holes in each other, but keyboard warriors do this all around the world. Have fun Drew.

Is that Pichard or Squid you are using for bait Shaun.

[Shaun Harris]

Is that Pichard or Squid you are using for bait Shaun.


I prefer a hemp base, it makes it funnier

[old rig]

Did you say that or not Shaun i cant keep up

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[Kickaha]

Fucking hell, hottest place in the country Friday was Timaru at 37 degrees, testing wasn't very much fun, I hear there was a reported sighting of two whales in caroline bay but once checked turned out just to be Spike and his brother in speedos:sick:

Good to see Colin Buckley back after a 12 year break and up to race speed about 3500 times faster than it's taking me

[nodrog]

Fucking hell, hottest place in the country Friday was Timaru at 37 degrees, testing wasn't very much fun, I hear there was a reported sighting of two whales in caroline bay but once checked turned out just to be Spike and his brother in speedos:sick:

Good to see Colin Buckley back after a 12 year break and up to race speed about 3500 times faster than it's taking me

you guys should be embarrassed.

[Kickaha]

you guys should be embarrassed.

I'm embarrased that I know you, does that count?

Apart from the lack of numbers overall it was a pretty good weekend

[Shaun Harris]

Big congrats to Collin and Robbie and the rest of ya that got there I guess

[Drew]

And fair play to you for standing bye what you say you are going to do. Shame the sidecar threads are now turning on there own and ripping holes in each other, but keyboard warriors do this all around the world. Have fun Drew.
Name one sidecar racer I've cut down, cocksucker.

More passion in a five chair field, than half a paddock of solo riders. Or at least, balls enough to speak our mind. I do that shit in person too, ask around. Zero fucks given when it comes to offending delicate sensibilities from here.

Is that Pichard or Squid you are using for bait Shaun.Little maggot is out classed, and outmatched. He could use crayfish for bait, and still end up empty handed.


Big congrats to Collin and Robbie and the rest of ya that got there I guess
You guess what? The implication is vague chief, spit it out or refer to my sig.

[sidecar bob]

Don't be too harsh on him Drew, it surely must make one a little bitter when you can't reapply for an MNZ licence until 2019.

[eelmat]

That's a bit disappointing given the level of support he received to come north a while back.
I heard it was because he didn't want to finish outside the top five.

what, lol jeez we don't have those kinds of wild expectations. We didn't do national rounds because we had a friend's death just before and then a family wedding last weekend. Sometimes other shit is more important that's all.
Ella

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=eelmat;1130820252] Sometimes other shit is more important that's all.

Sorry for your loss, and hope the family gig went well. Apart from that, What, you mean like seeing your name in this forum every day, or just talking crap like most in this thread do.

Hey Tosser Drew, I offered to meet you in the bikes shed man, but as usual you did not turn up, just like your racing efforts, but enjoy being the hero in your own little world

[Kickaha]

what, lol jeez we don't have those kinds of wild expectations. We didn't do national rounds because we had a friend's death just before and then a family wedding last weekend.
It was pretty dissapointing not to have you guys on the grid especially after the way you went at Wangas but good to see you turn at Levels on the way through, gave me a chance to give Kai and Goober shit about not riding at the same time :msn-wink:

Sometimes other shit is more important that's all.
That is just crazy talk

[eelmat]

[QUOTE=Kickaha;1130820265]It was pretty dissapointing not to have you guys on the grid especially after the way you went at Wangas but good to see you turn at Levels on the way through, gave me a chance to give Kai and Goober shit about not riding at the same time :msn-wink:

Ya we know we know, and its expected to get shit for it ;) just explaining that that wasn't the reason. See you on the 15th.

[Kickaha]

See you on the 15th.
I hope your starts have got a lot worse since Wanganui

[sidecar bob]

what, lol jeez we don't have those kinds of wild expectations. We didn't do national rounds because we had a friend's death just before and then a family wedding last weekend. Sometimes other shit is more important that's all.
Ella

Oh, ok, I did see you spectating at both meetings so that's a bit confusing, & I heard the top five thing from another south island team.
Damn shame you didn't compete seeing as they gave you guys a special write up in the program.

[jellywrestler]

Oh, ok, I did see you spectating at both meetings so that's a bit confusing, & I heard the top five thing from another south island team.
Damn shame you didn't compete seeing as they gave you guys a special write up in the program.

I heard there were a few current and former competitors spectating at Levels but not one bothered enough to support their sport and help in the commentators box....
Shame too, as the air con was pumping 18 degrees all weekend.

[Kickaha]

& I heard the top five thing from another south island team..
I don't think Kai is that unrealistic, although they normally get top 5 at club days

Going on how they're progressing I think they could do quite well next season

[scrivy]

I heard there were a few current and former competitors spectating at Levels but not one bothered enough to support their sport and help in the commentators box....
Shame too, as the air con was pumping 18 degrees all weekend.

Geezuz Spyda..... if ya said there was free piss in there, you'd have had a full box..... errr... ok, I mean a full commentary box..... In fact, some of the racers probably wouldn't have gone out in the heat, and stayed and had some beersies with ya....... :yes:

[Shaun Harris]

I heard there were a few current and former competitors spectating at Levels but not one bothered enough to support their sport and help in the commentators box....
Shame too, as the air con was pumping 18 degrees all weekend.


I did here you refer to this on Ctas man, but hey, they cannot wank on over a microphone like they can on here. SidecarBob, ya know what they say about people who make assumptions man

[old rig]

You know what they say about people who tell lies

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[sidecar bob]

I did here you refer to this on Ctas man, but hey, they cannot wank on over a microphone like they can on here. SidecarBob, ya know what they say about people who make assumptions man

What is actually bugging you Shaun? Straight up, id like to know. You dissapear for weeks, then you come on here gangbusters with a full on abusive post out of the blue & wonder why we fuck with you for our own amusement.
Some of us are not paticularly in our own element in the commentary box & all I can do is suggest that more apropriate personalities go & help spyda, wether they do or not i cant control.
I made the most of my weekend at Timaru to seize an opportunity for the betterment of a deserving team (no, not sidecar). What that exactly means & who the benificiary is isint anybody elses business but ours.

[sidecar bob]

You know what they say about people who tell lies

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They get abusive when people call them out on it?

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=sidecar bob;1130820564]What is actually bugging you Shaun? Straight up, id like to know. You dissapear for weeks, then you come on here gangbusters with a full on abusive post out of the blue & wonder why we fuck with you for our own amusement.


Way to much to go into detail re what is up with me man, even head specialists cannot figure that one out! But there is a KEYWORD in your above comment--- AMUSEMENT dude, Even if ya all do not find it amusing, I sure do, the beauty of the internet eh- Have a great day

[nodrog]

What is actually bugging you Shaun? Straight up, id like to know. You dissapear for weeks, then you come on here gangbusters with a full on abusive post out of the blue & wonder why we fuck with you for our own amusement.
Some of us are not paticularly in our own element in the commentary box & all I can do is suggest that more apropriate personalities go & help spyda, wether they do or not i cant control.
I made the most of my weekend at Timaru to seize an opportunity for the betterment of a deserving team (no, not sidecar). What that exactly means & who the benificiary is isint anybody elses business but ours.

Shauns a beneficiary, you helping him now?

[Shaun Harris]

Shauns a beneficiary, you helping him now?




Might be permanently after my next operation. It will take away the pain, or leave me in a wheel chair for the rest of my life according to the surgeon who is doing it

[nodrog]

Might be permanently after my next operation. It will take away the pain, or leave me in a wheel chair for the rest of my life according to the surgeon who is doing it

Cool, you could call yourself wheels.

[sidecar bob]

Might be permanently after my next operation. It will take away the pain, or leave me in a wheel chair for the rest of my life according to the surgeon who is doing it

Im sure thats stressful & pisses you off, but if you come on here being a dick because the way your life panned out based on decisions you have made, that isint helping anyone.
Im pretty straightforward & call shit how I see it, people can like it or not, I really couldnt care less weather it upsets them or not.

[old rig]

Might be permanently after my next operation. It will take away the pain, or leave me in a wheel chair for the rest of my life according to the surgeon who is doing it

I would pay for a better one then

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[Shaun Harris]

Im sure thats stressful & pisses you off, but if you come on here being a dick because the way your life panned out based on decisions you have made, that isint helping anyone.
Im pretty straightforward & call shit how I see it, people can like it or not, I really couldnt care less weather it upsets them or not.



No mate, not stressfull at all, ( well slightly I guess) it is just a fact of life that I accept. Re coming on here and being a dick, dude, check out loads of the shite typed in this thread, I actually fit in perfectly with the rest of you dick lickers, it is just that many of you take it as a personell insult! Like you, I also just say it as it is, and seriously do not give a flying fek what you all may think of me. I come here to amuse myself only. Once upon a time the racing site was a lot of fun and interesting, but that has died off big time, so you all get my cpmpany instead, like it or lump it big boy.

[Shaun Harris]

I would pay for a better one then

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He works on the All Blacks, so I think he may be way up there

[nodrog]

He works on the All Blacks, so I think he may be way up there

I hear he is busy flying float planes in alaska at the moment.

[sidecar bob]

I heard there were a few current and former competitors spectating at Levels but not one bothered enough to support their sport and help in the commentators box....
Shame too, as the air con was pumping 18 degrees all weekend.

Hi Spyda, in light of some confusion that appears to have arisen regarding the apparent responsibilities & expectations placed upon selected paying spectators.
If you could give a shout out on the P.A calling these people to the commentary tower in good time to help out, it would be greatly appreciated so these people arent made to feel like they have let the side down after the fact.
Im sure the apropriate people will be more that happy to pitch in if asked.
If they are not asked, then i guess they may assume their help is not wanted.
Thankyou very much for the truth & humour you provide on our behalf.
Cheers,
Steve.

[scrivy]

Hi Spyda, in light of some confusion that appears to have arisen regarding the apparent responsibilities & expectations placed upon selected paying spectators.
If you could give a shout out on the P.A calling these people to the commentary tower in good time to help out, it would be greatly appreciated so these people arent made to feel like they have let the side down after the fact.
Im sure the apropriate people will be more that happy to pitch in if asked.
If they are not asked, then i guess they may assume their help is not wanted.
Cheers,
Steve.

Well fuck me!! Is there a clause in the MOM's or any supp regs that states that spectators have to commentate?? Which clause is it again???

I know, I'll do it for free....... "Look at that fucktard..... what a dumb cunt... call that a racing line?? He's spent too much money buying a bottomless money pit..... He should have taken up knitting... His balls are smaller than Traceys..... How did that fucker get a racing licence? Who scrutineered that piece of fucking shit??? He's a mobile fucken chicane that shouldn't be allowed onto the track - he's simply too fucken dangerous and will kill some cunt....." (and that's just talking about me....)



Some people have the gift of the gab..... others... well, to be honest, just need to sit down and drink more Ken.....

[jellywrestler]

Hi Spyda, in light of some confusion that appears to have arisen regarding the apparent responsibilities & expectations placed upon selected paying spectators.
If you could give a shout out on the P.A calling these people to the commentary tower in good time to help out, it would be greatly appreciated so these people arent made to feel like they have let the side down after the fact.
Im sure the apropriate people will be more that happy to pitch in if asked.
If they are not asked, then i guess they may assume their help is not wanted.
Cheers,
Steve.

sometimes i'm sick of asking all the time, it's like talking to a brick wall and that's talking about the wider people there, not any individual.
I started doing post race interveiws as a competitor and realised the commentators don't know everything about all the bikes and riders. I then took it upon myself to spend some time with the commentator at each meeting and give then a bit of info, and didn't take offence if they used half or none of it. Once i wasn't racing i then was still providing the info, and was asked to stick around for a chat while the sidecar races were on, the commentators then worked out how to get the right stuff from me, how i could improve etc.
i found it added to my meeting and gave me something to focus in on to get a little more out of my weekend.
then one day i've still got the mic at the start of a superbike race and they invited me to stick around, i was pretty nervous but just got on with it.
It's always good to have assistance, and most of the time people find it's not as scary as they think.


maybe some folk should listen to see how well an extra voice works in other classes and see whether they think it'll do their class good as well.
as for paying spectators doing it for free, at Ruapuna i paid for a weekend pass at $25, didn't get a drop of water, a bite to eat of a glass of beer during or after the meeting from the thursday i arrived at the track till the monday when i left....

[nodrog]

I'd do it if it wasn't for my torettes.

[scrivy]

sometimes i'm sick of asking all the time, it's like talking to a brick wall and that's talking about the wider people there, not any individual.
I started doing post race interveiws as a competitor and realised the commentators don't know everything about all the bikes and riders. I then took it upon myself to spend some time with the commentator at each meeting and give then a bit of info, and didn't take offence if they used half or none of it. Once i wasn't racing i then was still providing the info, and was asked to stick around for a chat while the sidecar races were on, the commentators then worked out how to get the right stuff from me, how i could improve etc.
i found it added to my meeting and gave me something to focus in on to get a little more out of my weekend.
then one day i've still got the mic at the start of a superbike race and they invited me to stick around, i was pretty nervous but just got on with it.
It's always good to have assistance, and most of the time people find it's not as scary as they think.


maybe some folk should listen to see how well an extra voice works in other classes and see whether they think it'll do their class good as well.
as for paying spectators doing it for free, at Ruapuna i paid for a weekend pass at $25, didn't get a drop of water, a bite to eat of a glass of beer during or after the meeting from the thursday i arrived at the track till the monday when i left....

Spyda, you sir are to be applauded. :not:
You certainly do have the gift of the gab, and you know it. Just like a hot looking girl knows she's smoking hot......

The series would be a lot less without your commentary, that's for sure!
The clubs need to step up and ask for help for the promotions of each class at the track and on CTAS. Why is this not done at riders briefing?

If you remember, I paid you to help commentate at the TRRS, and you even got to be fed a huge meal, and were also supplied with free piss! Why can't other clubs do the same?
The NZSRA even had riders/teams sheets for the commentators too.

I think Steve has commentated at quite a few meetings to be honest, even the truck meetings in Taupo too.
Maybe some of the 'others' in the sport need to step up and contribute instead of criticize.

[sidecar bob]

Well fuck me!! Is there a clause in the MOM's or any supp regs that states that spectators have to commentate?? Which clause is it again???

I know, I'll do it for free....... "Look at that fucktard..... what a dumb cunt... call that a racing line?? He's spent too much money buying a bottomless money pit..... He should have taken up knitting... His balls are smaller than Traceys..... How did that fucker get a racing licence? Who scrutineered that piece of fucking shit??? He's a mobile fucken chicane that shouldn't be allowed onto the track - he's simply too fucken dangerous and will kill some cunt....." (and that's just talking about me....)



Some people have the gift of the gab..... others... well, to be honest, just need to sit down and drink more Ken.....
What happened to "look at at the old slow has beens"?
I did commentate at the truck meeting, but fortunately my brothers company had the corprate suite below the commentary box & I lightened him a number of ales in order to keep the chatter flowing.
Not sure I could have done it without them.

[jellywrestler]

I'd do it if it wasn't for my torettes.

i'll send you a nice get well card specifically for people with this ailment. Inside it simply says. "It's the thought that cunts"

[jellywrestler]

Spyda, you sir are to be applauded. :not:
You certainly do have the gift of the gab, and you know it. Just like a hot looking girl knows she's smoking hot......it's a job i can do and am good at. there are in reality few days i enjoy it, i think i set myself up at a pace that will get through the day, and don't let a good race in front of me leave a race that's bland get less coverage, excitement. in saying that i really do enjoy levels perhaps the most outside of course the cemetery circuit

The series would be a lot less without your commentary, that's for sure!
The clubs need to step up and ask for help for the promotions of each class at the track and on CTAS. Why is this not done at riders briefing? i've sometimes asked and at teretonga went to the point of saying 'if you don't think the commentary is worth adding to imagine the day without it, i got the best response ever

If you remember, I paid you to help commentate at the TRRS, and you even got to be fed a huge meal, and were also supplied with free piss! Why can't other clubs do the same?it depends on whether they even think about you, some are great at checking in to see how you're going, like the cams at levels last moth where it was taking me four races to eat a bread roll, if i wanted soemthing they got it, as they knew i was flat out doing their stuff. I don't ask for much, and when i do it's because i need it and can't get it myself and yes i remember your contribution to me and others at that event, you certainally looked after all the workers differently to other meeting organisers

The NZSRA even had riders/teams sheets for the commentators too. i often do these, i had offered to do this years nationals some months ago but didn't get an answer till a few days before xmas, and that was no they had others, so i didn't do them

I think Steve has commentated at quite a few meetings to be honest, even the truck meetings in Taupo too.
Maybe some of the 'others' in the sport need to step up and contribute instead of criticize.
answeres in red except this. Steve and yourself have poked your nose in occasioanlly, but there are others who are more than capable but either think i'm doing enough as it is, they won't be good anough or can't be bothered. To me i try to make a point that in reality they're only talking to me, like an interveiw and i'll find out their level of ability and voice enthusiasm and take it from there. i'm pretty sure most people who've helped have come away with that extra feeling of doing something different and interesting....
It'll be harder at Hampton Downs as the box is pretty isolated so i'll make an effort at riders breifing to get some people to help

[scrivy]

It'll be harder at Hampton Downs as the box is pretty isolated so i'll make an effort at riders breifing to get some people to help

An isolated box eh???!! That would make auto-cunninglingus pretty difficult.....:lol:

Why not say to them, if you haven't got a pit crew capable of conversing, then you'll just make up stories about them.... like when you found them chockablock up the neighbours goat etc..... that'll get them volunteering.....

Keep up the good work Spyda.
I might not have been at the track lately, but still heard you on CTAS.

[Kickaha]

It'll be harder at Hampton Downs as the box is pretty isolated so i'll make an effort at riders breifing to get some people to help
I think we'll send Pig up there with a slab of piss to keep you company

[sidecar bob]

The Puke box is a bit of a hike from the infield too. I've helped Ray up there a couple of times.

[Shaun Harris]

Spyda, you sir are to be applauded. :not:
You certainly do have the gift of the gab, and you know it. Just like a hot looking girl knows she's smoking hot......

The series would be a lot less without your commentary, that's for sure!
The clubs need to step up and ask for help for the promotions of each class at the track and on CTAS. Why is this not done at riders briefing?

If you remember, I paid you to help commentate at the TRRS, and you even got to be fed a huge meal, and were also supplied with free piss! Why can't other clubs do the same?
The NZSRA even had riders/teams sheets for the commentators too.

I think Steve has commentated at quite a few meetings to be honest, even the truck meetings in Taupo too.
Maybe some of the 'others' in the sport need to step up and contribute instead of criticize.



I think the big difference is, you are an actuall business person who treated what you organised in that manner in terms of compensating those that helped you) and the clubs run as clubs still. ( Not knocking any of them) THis is where the repeats start once again-- Look at the letter I sent to every single registered racer years back, the response was fin pathetic, the riders them selves do not care enough, and are just getting softer and softer with mum and dads money.

[Shaun Harris]

Seth Deverau did a good job of interviews I thought Jelly. Hey, could I come to the next 2 rounds and just be there to interview the sidecar teams, no forgetting that is where my racing started in 1986, O the fun we could all have together holding hands

[Stirts]

Hey, could I come to the next 2 rounds and just be there to interview the sidecar teams, no forgetting that is where my racing started in 1986, O the fun we could all have together holding hands

I can just see it now...

https://38.media.tumblr.com/286632526156d84795fecf1f0eacb43d/tumblr_mt8tmcdaAj1s8hnhko1_500.gif

[nodrog]

Seth Deverau did a good job of interviews I thought Jelly. Hey, could I come to the next 2 rounds and just be there to interview the sidecar teams, no forgetting that is where my racing started in 1986, O the fun we could all have together holding hands

You would probably start licking the microphone you thick cunt.

[Shaun Harris]

You would probably start licking the microphone you thick cunt.




probally but that would help confirm what you all believe any way

[scrivy]

The Puke box is a bit of a hike from the infield too. I've helped Ray up there a couple of times.

Errr... what you talking about Bob???
A lonely, secluded area, where you helped Ray get up a few times????

Is there something we need to know??? :shifty::love:

[jellywrestler]

Seth Deverau did a good job of interviews I thought Jelly. Hey, could I come to the next 2 rounds and just be there to interview the sidecar teams, no forgetting that is where my racing started in 1986, O the fun we could all have together holding hands

yip seth did a great job, fear though that when he's riding or can't have his assistant doing the editing on hand that the punters will start moaning that it's not as good as it used to be.
he put his heart and soul into it...

you're welcome to assist Shaun......

[Shaun Harris]

yip seth did a great job, fear though that when he's riding or can't have his assistant doing the editing on hand that the punters will start moaning that it's not as good as it used to be.
he put his heart and soul into it...

you're welcome to assist Shaun......



I will be at both NTH rounds Dude, so will work in with helping you. Haha this may actually scare some of these 3 legged folks into doing some thing to help promote there own class FOC thanks to CTAS

[Stirts]

Haha this may actually scare some of these 3 legged folks into doing some thing to help promote there own class FOC thanks to CTAS

Yeah because the likes of Scrivy, Steve, Tracey, Neville, Mark, and Tim, to name but a few, do sweet fuck all aye. You really are a cock you know that!

[Shaun Harris]

Yeah because the likes of Scrivy, Steve, Tracey, Neville, Mark, and Tim, to name but a few, do sweet fuck all aye. You really are a cock you know that!



haha and more than you even know stirts. Lucky a few on here actually know the real me and trust me.

[Stirts]

Lucky a few on here actually know the real me and trust me.

Which of your personalities is that then?

[Shaun Harris]

Which of your personalities is that then?



All depends on what side of the bed I got out of, who;s shit I have read on here, and If I really give a fuck or not about things. So which one would you like stirts, funny that name sounds like " Skirts" a thing girlies wear, how is your PMT going by the way

[Stirts]

All depends on what side of the bed I got out of, who;s shit I have read on here, and If I really give a fuck or not about things. So which one would you like stirts, funny that name sounds like " Skirts" a thing girlies wear, how is your PMT going by the way

Yes I am a girlie but I'm only a bloody c**t 7 days out of the month. So what's your excuse?

[Shaun Harris]

Yes I am a girlie but I'm only a bloody c**t 7 days out of the month. So what's your excuse?




ewe yucky, how the hell did I fugure that out from a no name on here as per usual. My excuse mmmm Simply do not need one missie, this place is just fun and frustrations for me some time, and I do not really give a flying f to what any of you no names think to be totally honest. It is just a form of RnR to me, in between the fantastic life I have playing games and talking shit

[Stirts]

ewe yucky, how the hell did I fugure that out from a no name on here as per usual. My excuse mmmm Simply do not need one missie, this place is just fun and frustrations for me some time, and I do not really give a flying f to what any of you no names think to be totally honest. It is just a form of RnR to me, in between the fantastic life I have playing games and talking shit

Funny thing...I have a name. It's Tina.

[Danger Dave]

Funny thing...I have a name. It's Tina.

I thought it was Dickens ;)

[Stirts]

I thought it was Dickens ;)

Yeah that's my other personality for the rest of the month :msn-wink:

[sidecar bob]

Oh fuckin dear, :facepalm: . Nearly winsey time with the disabled Tina. :yes:

[Shaun Harris]

Funny thing...I have a name. It's Tina.


Hi Tina, great to communicate with you, have a great day

[Bert]

That would come under the "further clarification" & I doubt there will be a problem. These rules were formulated from an amalgamation of the NZ pre 82 solo rules & the Aussie period 5 rules, which to be honest, are a tad vague.
Seeing as weber & dellorto carbs along with Hilborn injection were freely available pre '82 there will be no issues with their use.
The carb rules refer specifically to bike carbs.
Any car component manufactured pre 82 are fine to use, for example the Mk1 Cortina discs Mo Hayley used are ok.
The idea of putting these proposed rules out there before they are locked & loaded into MNZ rules is that they can be quickly tweaked without going through a convoluted process.
Once we are all happy that the wording & content are correct, we can go to the next level.
We also need to allow for Dyna style ignition systems & magneto's.
These aren't my rules, they are our rules, I'm keen to hear from anyone that wants to provide some positive input.

Any progress on this?
Quite interesting, maybe a engine transplant in old stinky and make her a pre82???
I wander if my 82 GPZ550 would fit the rules?

[sidecar bob]

Any progress on this?
Quite interesting, maybe a engine transplant in old stinky and make her a pre82???
I wander if my 82 GPZ550 would fit the rules?

Yep, pretty much all done & dusted as per the earlier post containing rules on here.
Go hard!! The GPZ will be fine, however everybody else will turn up with hotrod 1100's eventually.

[sidecar bob]

I will be at both NTH rounds Dude, so will work in with helping you. Haha this may actually scare some of these 3 legged folks into doing some thing to help promote there own class FOC thanks to CTAS

Yet all I feel is pity.

[Shaun Harris]

Yet all I feel is pity.

better than ya sack as per usual though eh

[jellywrestler]

Funny thing...I have a name. It's Tina.

tina stirtson if i remember correctly?

[scrivy]

tina stirtson if i remember correctly?

So is Gordie a 'Stirtson' too then??? ;)

[Kornholio]

Had a rim job :eek5:

[scrivy]

Had a rim job :eek5:

Looks prolapsed to me.......

[nodrog]

Had a rim job :eek5:

Did you do that with a Hammer? :sunny:

Are we going up the road to test it?:scooter:

[scrivy]

Did you do that with a Hammer? :sunny:

Are we going up the road to test it?:scooter:

Geezuz Doggy..... you got a death wish??? :facepalm::shit::innocent::love::corn:

[nodrog]

Geezuz Doggy..... you got a death wish??? :facepalm::shit::innocent::love::corn:

˙ʇunɔ uɐǝɯ noʎ ɥʇᴉɐɟ ǝɯos ǝʌɐH

[scrivy]

˙ʇunɔ uɐǝɯ noʎ ɥʇᴉɐɟ ǝɯos ǝʌɐh

lol, rofl, emof, pmsl, ltaoads, bmwoan etc etc.......

[sidecar bob]

˙ʇunɔ uɐǝɯ noʎ ɥʇᴉɐɟ ǝɯos ǝʌɐH

I had one, but that's now fucked too. :msn-wink:

[scrivy]

I had one, but that's now fucked too. :msn-wink:

:gob: TRUE BRO?

[Kornholio]

Looks prolapsed to me.......

As long as it not a relapse...


Did you do that with a Hammer? :sunny:

Are we going up the road to test it?:scooter:

Yes and yes :D

All going well I should be at Hampton Downs for the Nats, one problem tho my swinger has decided to move to Dunners next month to learn how to cut people open(and put em back together) so I on the look out for another one or may just use a strategically placed bag of cement :/

[scrivy]

As long as it not a relapse...



Yes and yes :D

All going well I should be at Hampton Downs for the Nats, one problem tho my swinger has decided to move to Dunners next month to learn how to cut people open(and put em back together) so I on the look out for another one or may just use a strategically placed bag of cement :/

I'll pay Gordie to do it for you................
Be worth it's weight in piss.......

Actually, Bob can do it........

[nodrog]

As long as it not a relapse...



Yes and yes :D

All going well I should be at Hampton Downs for the Nats, one problem tho my swinger has decided to move to Dunners next month to learn how to cut people open(and put em back together) so I on the look out for another one or may just use a strategically placed bag of cement :/

Just fill the tray up with piss, you have to buy it sooner or later anyway

[Kornholio]

Just fill the tray up with piss, you have to buy it sooner or later anyway

Heh I still owe 3 boxes from last episode :) Could be light by end of race :D

[Kickaha]

one problem tho my swinger has decided to move to Dunners next month

He probably decided that as he was banging into the wall at T1 and being spat down the track

[Kornholio]

He probably decided that as he was banging into the wall at T1 and being spat down the track

You could be right, I just figured he was an alcoholic and he liked parties with burning couches and stuff whilst studying

Stop being a killjoy, rubbing's racing

[nodrog]

...... rubbing's racing

Kick's just spent all morning racing in bed then.

[Shaun Harris]

Kick's just spent all morning racing in bed then.



Dam, that must mean when I am wanking I am still racing, bah, who needs a licence eh

[nodrog]

Dam, that must mean when I am wanking I am still racing, bah, who needs a licence eh

yeah but you aren't supposed to do it at the track.

[Shaun Harris]

yeah but you aren't supposed to do it at the track.


The japanese thought it was funny when they caught me doing it, It helps me to relax and focus on the racing only

[jellywrestler]

Dam, that must mean when I am wanking I am still racing, bah, who needs a licence eh

it's no longer called wanking you're now a 'self dater'

[Kickaha]

Kick's just spent all morning racing in bed then.
All morning? fuck I wish

[Shaun Harris]

it's no longer called wanking you're now a 'self dater'



O ok then, When I am relaxing the mans way:banana:

[Kickaha]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10306&t=1

[Kickaha]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=53541

Joe Heys honda cbr600 f2

running pc35 honda injection engines
lightweight kevlar baker style fairing new at beginning of 2014 season
2 sets of wheels one set of wets, one set with slicks
electric water pump set up
moulds for under tray and passenger tray included
raced all last season with Bemsee as our rookie season

spare engine parts including clutches, gearboxes, cams, throttle bodies, coil sticks. brake pads etc etc included

£4500 as is ready to go for the 2015 season.

second engine +£400
custom made light weight trailer to carry this bike, spare wheels, spare engine +£900

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10297&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10300&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10304&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10294&t=1

[nodrog]

https://i.warosu.org/data/diy/img/0007/17/1414452241569.jpg

[Kickaha]

Mint day at Ruapuna today for Rd 4 KOR, 8 sidecars for a club round is the best turnout I have ever seen with Spike/Astrid travelling down to give us all a thrashing

We started off a bit crap but got a bit better throughout the day as we made some changes

[ellipsis]

We started off a bit crap but got a bit better thorughout the day as we made some changes


...that was a second in the last race wasn't it?...the new crew were looking fairly comfortable in the last race after a first day, bloody marvelous...:woohoo:

[Kickaha]

...that was a second in the last race wasn't it?...the new crew were looking fairly comfortable in the last race after a first day, bloody marvelous...:woohoo:
I didn't realise Alex broke a chain on the start and was going as fast as I could expecting him to pass us at any minute, got some good starts as well going off P4 and passing Spike/Astrid

[Shaun Harris]

I didn't realise Alex broke a chain on the start and was going as fast as I could expecting him to pass us at any minute, got some good starts as well going off P4 and passing Spike/Astrid


Bugger, i forgot to come ans say hello to you there today

[Kickaha]

This is a new class they're introducing in the Uk, looks like a lot of fun with not that much outlay when you can buy something like a K100 for $2500 upwards

B.E.A.R.S sidecar racing.
Get started right here !

The freight train now barrelling into the hairpin is the 100 mph special from platform 17 – They’re the BEARS outfits – road derived bikes from Europe and the States with min 17” wheels and a platform bolted on. Current cut-off date is Dec 3Ist 1986. A simple formula giving fast, furious and definitely the cheapest sidecar racing around, with a six meeting series (at six different circuits) and a minimum of four races at each meet. Building a racebike is straightforward, with advice and a tour of the construction facility freely available from current racers. Contact series co-ordinator David Sykes 0116 2876119 sidecarstar@hotmail.co.uk for a chat about how to get started.

Construction Specifications:
Donor bike & parts: Must be a production road bike, mass produced and freely available to buy, built in Britain/Europe/America before 31st December 1986.

Frame: Made by the same manufacturer as the engine. Some leeway allowed for similar frame, different year. Bracing allowed. Frame loop to remain intact, i.e. no cutting away of lower frame rails etc. Fabrication of sub frame allowed to attach sidecar to bikes built without lower rails e.g. Laverda twins/ BMW K100/K75/MZ

Forks: Must be of a similar type to the bike when it left the manufacturers. Upside down forks not allowed. Forks from any BEARS eligible bike allowed. Fork brace allowed. Forks can be modified to leading axle by welding/fabrication to achieve desired trail

Swinging arm: Must be retained and at standard length but suspension can be made rigid. Complete new sub-frame “hardtail” not allowed.

Yokes: Custom made/modified std to bring about suitable trail, allowed.

Wheels: Minimum diameter 17”, rim width as solo BEARS. All alloy wheels must be unpainted i.e. left as bare metal to facilitate their inspection for cracks at scrutineering.

Tyres: As solo BEARS, maximum tyre width 160mm.Must use inner tubes.

Fuelling: Any BEARS eligible carbs allowed. Injection if fitted as standard from new allowed.

Brakes: Any BEARS eligible discs/callipers allowed. Only ONE calliper per disc.

Fuel: Post 72 outfits must use petrol, pre 72 can use methanol.

Sidecar Spec: Minimum diameter for sidecar wheel is 17”; sidecar must bolt to bike as pre 59’s do. Only streamlining allowed is a small nose cone. Sidecar brake not allowed. Sidecar chassis must be made from steel tube. Choice of front/rear exit. Minimum of four anchor points on bike, two upper, two lower. Sidecar wheel suspension not allowed.
Streamlining: If fitted to the donor bike from new, fairings are allowed

Eligibility: Any doubts over eligibility refer to eligibility committee before building. All pre 59 “Big Wheel” outfits are eligible.

Sump Tray : All wet sump machines must have fitted a sump tray filled with absorbent material. Tray to conform to ACU regulations.
Exhausts: Must be under 105db. Turbocharging NOT allowed.

Engine: Must be normally aspirated. Tuning allowed. Supercharging NOT allowed.

Points Scoring: Usual allocation from 15 for first to 1 for tenth with these provisos- under 500cc one place above, 500cc to 800cc as earned, over 800cc one place below.

[Drew]

Soooo, classics with newer motors. No thanks.

[nodrog]

Soooo, classics with newer motors. No thanks.

not really, reading those rules I think this is what they must be racing.

http://www.sidecarafrica.co.za/Heeler%201.jpg

[wildman]

Can anyone list the NZ sidecar Champions from 1980 - 1995 and the year they won it. Been searching the web but it's not much help and i know we have a few of them on here.

[sidecar bob]

Can anyone list the NZ sidecar Champions from 1980 - 1995 and the year they won it. Been searching the web but it's not much help and i know we have a few of them on here.

Jellywrestler! They need you over here.

[Kickaha]

King of Ruapuna Rd 4

The original forecast wasn’t great and the drizzle on the way to the track wasn’t promising but it was dry and overcast when we got there and got set up

It wasn’t too long before the others turned up and with 7 confirmed it was looking good, and then the guys who bought Graeme’s outfit turned up which meant we had eight starters including the current #NZ1 team of Spike Taylor and Astrid Hartnell who had made the trip down to get a few laps in before the next National round

In the twelve plus years I’ve been racing sidecars it’s the best turn out we’ve had for a club day and larger than some years Nationals grids

After getting there and setting up Glen then had to make a quick trip home as he forgotten to bring his leathers but apart from that little hiccup everyone one else was ready to go

I’d made a change to the castor on the front and as soon as we left our pits I could tell the difference with it following the lines in the seal and feeling a bit vague, it felt very nervous turning in and made it hard to drive out of the corner and felt pretty crap really but we decided to run it like that in the race and see if it felt any better as we rode a bit harder

Qualifying times showed we were off the pace we’d normally do and only off P4 with Spike/Astrid off P1, Alex/Paul off P2 and Goober/Matt P3 and Kai/Ella, Phil/Steve on the row behind

Race 1

We get the good launch, good enough to beat both Spike/Astrid and Alex/Paul who were on the row in front of us into T1 and that’s where the front end gets a bit untidy and we run out wider than I’d like and Spike/Astrid motor on past us

Down into pothole and down towards the hairpin and Alex/Paul pull out to pass us, we turn it and it seems I’m fighting with the steering to keep it turning and Alex/Paul pull an easy couple of lengths on us and start pulling away

I can hear Goober/Matt right behind us and a lap or so later coming off T1 outrun us to pothole, we stick right with them around through the infield and I’m picking we’ll be passing them back by the end of the lap

Less than a length between us as we turn into the dipper and next second Goober/Matt are running up high and off the track and we carry on through and I know they won’t be catching back up after that and we take an easy 3rd place

We fuel it up and check the usual bits a pieces and wind ½ a turn out of the castor out of the front


Race 2
Alex/Paul are going out on the Dunnoon after it not starting for race 1 and have given the LCR to the Glen/Alexx Father/daughter team having their first meeting together

The starts not quite as good as race 1 but we head into T1 side by side with Spike/Astrid on the inside line

Once around the corner they proceed to clear out and although trying as best we can don’t even get close to keeping up

We’ve upped the pace over race one and Goober/Matt are steadily getting dropped off so we’re under no pressure and have a lonely ride around by ourselves for a 2nd place finish

We get it up on the stands for the usual check over and knock another ½ turn out of the castor and add one turn into the rear preload

Race 3
Best start yet
We make it past Both Spike/Astrid and Alex/Paul and lead through T1

Spike/Astrid pull alongside down towards pothole and have the inside running, they’re far enough alongside that I have to give them room and we go through two wide which puts us out wider than I want and they’ve got the power down early and pulling away

Into the hairpin and Alex/Paul haven’t come past and I’m trying to push harder as I’m thinking they’re right behind us

We feel like we’re going a bit quicker and I take a couple of looks over the shoulder at the dipper and hairpin and think that when I can’t see Alex/Paul that they must be very close behind

Starting lap 6 and they haven’t come past us and Goober/Matt who don’t seem to have the speed of previous events are lagging behind, we come up to lap Phil/Steve as we hit the sweeper and ride around the outside

Chequered flag out and we get another 2nd place finish and looking behind on the warm down lap there’s no sign of Alex/Paul, as it turns out the broke a chain as they launched and only made it a few metres

Fantastic day at the track and the good turn out only made it better, very much appreciated to see Spike/Astrid make the trip down as well

Now it’s time to prep the sidecar before we head off to Hampton Downs in three weeks time for Nationals Rd 3

[Voltaire]

I'd like to see supercharged and turbo bikes.:niceone:

[Kickaha]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sidecar-racing-outfit-Windle-Formula-2-Honda-RR-/201291940524?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2eddef42ac

Welcome to my auction for my Windle F2 with Honda CBR600RR 03-06 engines.

This is a great handling bike and I've enjoyed riding it. I've had personal best times at 3 tracks on it last year including a 3rd place at the southern 100 (see first pic). Its very stable at high speed but light and forgiving on the tighter tracks. I'm only selling as I want something a bit newer for racing at the TT/S100/ British F2 etc. These pictures were taken when I got the bike. I've tidied it up a lot since then, removed the celtic stickers and changed the wheels so the slicks are on silver rims.

The good bits and what's included.

Its a Windle chassis made by the world famous Terry Windle around 1998-2000 I believe.

2 standard 2006 Honda CBR600RR engines.

1 damaged engine for spares.

Various spares including heads, injectors, looms, bearings, sprockets, etc etc.

Comes with 6 wheels. Both front wheels with discs. 1 set of wheels (standard silver) has 1 meeting old Yokohama Radial tyres. 1 set (the red wheels in the pictures) has good condition Yokohama wet's.

AP racing callipers all round.

Maxton shocks front and rear. Recently re-furbished by Maxton.

HRC kit ignition

Quick shift (needs wiring in)

Power commander 5

Power commander auto-tune.

Recent chain

Recent brake pads all round

New rear wheel bearing and bearing housing

Recent front wheel bearings (both wheels)

I've just had some new exhaust flanges made


Bad bits.

The fairing and seat are on their last legs. They are usable but had a lot of repairs some better than others. I can put the buyer in touch with a few people with good second hand fairings.

The under tray is like the fairing. Tatty but usable.

There isn't an engine in the bike at the moment but I'll try and get one in over the next week or so depending on the sale.

The radiator is beyond economical repair and needs a new one.

The wiring works fine and is sound, but a bit untidy. If I were to keep the bike I'd maybe tidy it up.

It only has a TT tank. Again this hasn't caused me any problems at all but some people like to run a small tank.


So generally it is a very good bike but needs a small amount of TLC and a few quid spending on it. Once that is done and with the right crew on board it would be a very good bike and more than capable of running at the front of club races or mid pack at a higher lever.

I may be interested in selling as a rolling chassis if someone didn't want the Honda engines etc.

I am taking into account the money that needs spending and my reserve price will reflect that.

For more information or to come and view please drop me a text on 07715 167700 or email jc@anodeelectronics.co.uk.

The bike is near Knaresborough, North Yorkshire and I'm available pretty much any time for viewings.

I can ship abroad at buyers cost. Please contact me for a price.

Cash on collection only or full price inc shipping via bank transfer if shipping abroad.


Cheers.

John.

[nodrog]

choice!

____________

[Drew]

It seems to run the motor as a stressed element of the chassis. No good for a re-power.

[Kickaha]

It seems to run the motor as a stressed element of the chassis. No good for a re-power.

Depends what you're repowering it with

edit: actually I dont think it makes fuck all difference, very few of them in at least the last decade or more seem to build them any other way and they use all brands of engines

[Drew]

Depends what you're repowering it with

edit: actually I dont think it makes fuck all difference, very few of them in at least the last decade or more seem to build them any other way and they use all brands of engines

Wonder how they stop them from twisting cases and destroying cranks.

Anyhoo, looks tight with a 600 in there. A thou would be a bitch to fit.

[nodrog]

Wonder how they stop them from twisting cases and destroying cranks.

Anyhoo, looks tight with a 600 in there. A thou would be a bitch to fit.

they way the chair is braced stops any lateral movement, or at least contains it to a reasonable level.

you have more risk of it flexing length ways and pulling the head and barrels off.

P.S. I'm pretty sure a couple of sidecars have destroyed cranks before.

[Kickaha]

they way the chair is braced stops any lateral movement, or at least contains it to a reasonable level.

you have more risk of it flexing length ways and pulling the head and barrels off.

P.S. I'm pretty sure a couple of sidecars have destroyed cranks before.

Most of the force into the motor would be along the chassis under brakes

Ask Bert about cranks in his homebuilt stuff, he did a few

[scrivy]

Ask Bert about cranks in his homebuilt stuff, he did a few

As did Westie.

[scrivy]

Anyhoo, looks tight with a 600 in there. A thou would be a bitch to fit.
Do you want me to send you some more KY? :shutup::facepalm::whistle:

[Drew]

Dunno, are we putting a proper motor in a short chair for you?

[Kickaha]

Some more from ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-F2-RACE-SIDECAR-OUTFIT-/301537047895?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4635023557
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/okoAAOSwqu9U5z-s/$_57.JPG
HI AND WELCOME TO MY AUCTION FOR MY PRIDE AND JOY. I AM ONLY SELLING THIS DUE TO THE REALISATION THAT I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RACE THIS DUE TO MY HEALTH ISSUES. I HAVE A BAD BACK AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON AT THE MOMENT.

THERE IS A HELL OF A LOT OF HISTORY EASILY OBTAINABLE FOR THIS OUTFIT IF WANTED.

IT IS A DERBYSHIRE OUTFIT 1OF 2 MADE. THE 1ST ONE WAS A LIGHT WEIGHT TYPE AND THIS ONE, THE 2ND, BEING SLIGHTY HEAVIER ALLOWING TO BE RACED AROUND THE ISLE OF MAN FOR THE TT. THERE SHE WAS CHRISTENED "WINNIE" AND IT'S RIDER AND PASSENGER ACHIEVED BEST NEWCOMER AWARDS. I COULD GO ON A LOT MORE BUT WON'T UNLESS THE NEW BUYER IS GENUINLEY INTERESTED.

I HAVE MORE PICTURES IF REQUIRED AND A VIDEO OF IT RUNNING IF YOU SO DESIRE!

THE OUTFIT COMES FITTED WITH A HONDA CBR600 F2 ENGINE WITH FLAT SIDE CARBS. THE ENGINE HAS HAD WORK DONE BY MINSTRAL ENGINEERING. PORTED/SHAPED HEADS, KENT CAMS, STAINLESS VALVES. NEW RINGS AND NEW SEALS ETC. THE ENGINE ALSO HAS A CR GEARBOX. AS YOU CAN SEE THE CHASSIS IS OF COURSE UN PAINTED AND IS SOLID. POLISHED AND STRENGTHENED SWING ARM.THE OUTFIT ALSO BENEFITS FROM A SPARE SET OF WHEELS WITH WETS ON AND A STANDARD CBR600 F2 ENGINE THAT RUNS WELL. THERE ARE ALSO SPARES WHICH INCLUDE CLUTCHES, SPARE BRAKE PADS ETC AND RADIATOR ETC. I'M SURE THERE IS MORE THERE TOO. THE PLASTICS ARE OK AND USABLE BUT COULD DO WITH SOME TOUCHING UP HERE AND THERE TO MAKE PERFECT. NEEDLESS TO SAY SHE IS RUNNING ON TOTAL LOSS. SHE IS PRETTY MUCH READY TO RACE SERVICED INCLUDING FLUIDS CHANGED ETC.I ALSO HAVE, A FAIRLY NEW TRANSPONDER THAT COULD GO WITH THE BIKE, SHOULD THE PRICE BE AGREED.

I AM ABSOLUTELY GUTTED TO SELL THIS BUT NOT DESPERATE TO SELL SO IT WILL NOT BE GIVEN AWAY. IT IS A VERY CLEAN AND LOVED OUTFIT. IT CAN BE PUT ON THE ROAD WITH VERY LITTLE FUSS BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WILL DO. NO OVERSEAS BIDDERS PLEASE AND FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE BIDDING. OUTFIT IS ADVERTISED ELSEWHERE SO CAN BE WIITHDRAWN AT ANYTIME. I'M A GOOD COMMUNICATOR SO PLEASE DON'T BE SHY.

CASH ON COLLECTION.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CALL LEE ON 07515796400

[Kickaha]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIDECAR-RACING-OUTFIT-FORMULA-2-HONDA-/151587056222?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item234b4aea5e
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTA0WDE2MDA=/z/WggAAOSwDlxU3IU4/$_57.JPG
FORMULA 2 SIDECAR RACING OUTFIT FOR SALE.

DUE TO A NEW OUTFIT THIS ONE HAS TO GO. IVE OWNED THIS OUTFIT FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS AND IT HAS SERVED ME AND MY PASSENGER VERY WELL AS WE WERE BOTH NEW TO THE SPORT.

THE OUTFIT WAS BUILT ON THE ISLE OF MAN BY A GUY CALLED GRAHAM HAYNE SOMETIME BETWEEN 1993 AND 1996. IT WAS BROUGHT ACROSS HERE AND SPEND A FEW YEARS ON TRACK AND HILL CLIMBING BEFORE COMING TO ME. THE CHASSIS ITSELF IS VERY WELL BUILT AND MADE TO LAST ALTOUGH IS A LITTLE HEAVIER THAN MORE MODERN OUTFITS.

THE CHASSIS IS RUNNING A SHELLBOURNE WHEEL BASE AND COMES WITH 3 SLICKS AND 3 CUT SLICKS FOR IF OUR WONDERFUL WEATHER IS ITS NORMAL WET SELF. FOR BRAKES ITS RUNNING AP CALIPERS ON THE REAR AND THE CHAIR WHEEL WITH KAWASAKI ZX6R DISCS AND CALIPERS ON THE FRONT, FOR SUSPENSION THE OUTFIT HAS MAXTONS FRONT AND REAR.

THE ENGINE IS A 2001 HONDA CBR 600 F-SPORT ENGINE WITH INJECTION (PC35E). ITS TUNED WITH CAMS RUNNING A POWER COMMANDER 3 MODULE TO CONROL THE FUELING. SEEMS TO HOLD ITS OWN AGAINST OTHERS AND HAS THE BENEFIT OF BEING CHEAP TO PICK UP ANOTHER ENGINE IF NEEDED.

OTHER CHANGES BY ME ARE A 2013 TONY BAKER FULL FRONT END INCLUDING BOTTOM LOOP, FORKS AND BARS. A FULL NEW EXHAUST SYSTEM DONE BY NRP AND WE ALSO PUT A WIDER REAR WHEEL IN THE REAR WHICH WAS NEW AT THE BEGINNING OF 2014.

THE BIKE WOULD COME WITH EVERYTHING LISTED ABOVE AND THE FAIRING WHICH IF IM HONEST THE MAIN FAIRING HAS HAD A FEW KNOCKS AND ALTOHOUGH USABLE COULD DO WITH REPLACING. ALSO COMES WITH A SELECTION OF DIFFERENT SIZE REAR SPROCKETS AND A SMALL BOX OF BITS INCLUDING SPARE PLUGS, WATER PUMP, LEVERS ETC.

THIS BIKE WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT STARTER BIKE FOR ANYONE WISHING TO ENTER THE SPORT AS ITS READY TO GO. PLEASE BE AWARE SOME CONROLS MAY HAVE TO BE ALTERED DEPENDING ON YOUR SIZE. THE RESERVE ON THIS MACHINE IS NOT HIGH AND IF IT SELLS THE BUYER WILL BE GETTING A DAM GOOD DEAL ITS JUST THE NEW BIKE ARRIVES SOON AND I CANT RACE TWO.

PLEASE REMEMBER YOU ARE BIDDING TO BUY NOT COME HAVE A LOOK, IF YOU WISH TO VIEW PLEASE CONTACT ME AND ILL GLADLY SEND YOU MY NUMBER TO TALK SOME MORE. IF THE BIKE SELLS COULD WINNING BIDDER CONTACT ME TO ARRANGE PAYMENT AS A DEPOSIT BY PAYPAL IS REQUIRED AND ILL ACCEPT THE REST ON COLLECTION. OVER SEAS BIDDERS ARE WELCOME TO BID HOWEVER YOU MUST ARRANGE YOUR OWN TRANSPORTATION AND COLLECTION.

[Kickaha]

Pinched from Steves place, cool map of the TT circuit

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zknnafPOHWjQ.knLFpI0Z_m-A

click on the list in the left and it gives you info about the different places on the circuit

[sidecar bob]

Pinched from Steves place, cool map of the TT circuit

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zknnafPOHWjQ.knLFpI0Z_m-A

click on the list in the left and it gives you info about the different places on the circuit

Very cool, thanks for putting that up. Bit hard for me to look at seeing we have just cancelled everything we had booked to go there this year due to the accident.

[Drew]

Very cool, thanks for putting that up. Bit hard for me to look at seeing we have just cancelled everything we had booked to go there this year due to the accident.

Fucken harden up princess.

[sidecar bob]

Fucken harden up princess.

We're having a wee tropical holiday instead. You should crash it like gordie & Tina have.

[Drew]

We're having a wee tropical holiday instead. You should crash it like gordie & Tina have.

I'd love to Broseph, but Christ knows where I'll be when ya go.

[jellywrestler]

As did Westie.

didn't he run one in the pits at invers one year?

[Kickaha]

We're having a wee tropical holiday instead. You should crash it like gordie & Tina have.

I don't remember getting an invite, your motors might end up in a skip somewhere between Rangiora and Tauranga

[sidecar bob]

I don't remember getting an invite, your motors might end up in a skip somewhere between Rangiora and Tauranga

The romance is fucked anyway, you may as well come too!

[Drew]

The romance is fucked anyway, you may as well come too!

Good group of us, and the romance might go all keys in a bowl styles. Giggidy!

[Kickaha]

Scuse me while I rush off to find a box of tissues

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10392&mode=view%2F20150112_204452resized.jpg


For sale if anyone wants it
http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=53657
For sale is Gary Gibson's F2 LCR Suzuki.

Ex John Holden.

Immaculate condition - fully rebuilt and ready for the 2015 season.

Checked and strengthened by Tony Baker (end 2014) with the TT in mind.

Comes with 3 K6/K7 engines:-
1 x British Championship spec - 200 miles
1 x Tuned. Yoshi cams, ported head, new valves, newly refreshed - 0 miles
1 x Standard - mileage unknown (unused by me)

AND
1 x British Championship spec 2013 - 200miles

9 Wheels all with good tyres

Dynobike airbox

Stainless exhaust (with spare silencer)

Recently serviced proflex suspension

Full set of sprockets

Yoshi kit ignition

Auto-tune

Quick shifter

Lots of spares - chains, fuel pump, standard cylinder head, wiring loom, brake pads, most electrical components + more.

Ready to race.

£20,000

Contact Gary - 07979798829
Email Daryl - darylgibson1993@hotmail.co.uk
Or Direct Message me (Daryl)

Located in East Yorkshire

[scrivy]

For sale if anyone wants it

I want it........

Was I the first to say so??

[Shaun Harris]

I want it........

Was I the first to say so??

It sure is a horn piece of kit

[nodrog]

I want it........

Was I the first to say so??

I'll make you one.

[scrivy]

I'll make you one.

OK!!!:not:

[ellipsis]

I'll make you one.


...I'm already on to it...I just have to add some good glue to these woodchips and we have the makings of our first short bike...see you at HD sometime...it will be very fast, we are painting it red...


http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac85/motorcycle-mania/short%20bike_zpshv8blldz.jpg (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/motorcycle-mania/media/short%20bike_zpshv8blldz.jpg.html)

[Grumph]

I'll make you one.

Oh sure, now you have a pic, it's easy....What worries me slightly is the bit about Tony Baker strengthening it for the TT. Where ?

Would it stand up to a trip over the kerbs at Wanganui ?

And shit that's a long chain run with the pivot well back too.

Neil - I'd laminate the beams up in western red Cedar, they'd look neat varnished....

[jellywrestler]

Would it stand up to a trip over the kerbs at Wanganui ?

only kick will need to worry bout that....

[Kickaha]

only kick will need to worry bout that....

No idea what you're talking about :shifty:

My aim this year if we come back up for Wangas will be to actually make it through qualifying, maybe it'll be third time lucky

[Drew]

And shit that's a long chain run with the pivot well back too.

.Heaps of chairs are like that, particularly the single sided swing arm ones.

Ours was terrible, so we got creative to fix it.

[Danger Dave]

Heaps of chairs are like that, particularly the single sided swing arm ones.

Ours was terrible, so we got creative to fix it.

Are we going to see you out again this year?

[Drew]

Are we going to see you out again this year?

HAGD we should be back in action.

[old rig]

HAGD we should be back in action.

So not this year then

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[Drew]

So not this year then

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Don't confuse people!

[old rig]

Don't confuse people!

Have you heard when the hagd is

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[Danger Dave]

apparently we are racing at taupo as part of the truck meeting, that is according to there advertising poster which was the first i have heard of it

[sidecar bob]

apparently we are racing at taupo as part of the truck meeting, that is according to there advertising poster which was the first i have heard of it

Yeah, full track, so cant use the small track for the have a goat day.

[Drew]

Yeah, full track, so cant use the small track for the have a goat day.

No have a go day then? Hmmm.

Manfeild now have the back track separated completely from the main track. Why don't we run it there instead? On a different weekend than the truck meet so we can get some testing in there. Never done the full Taupo track on a chair...while it was running properly.

Do it on a Vic club day.

[nodrog]

No have a go day then? Hmmm.

Manfeild now have the back track separated completely from the main track. Why don't we run it there instead? On a different weekend than the truck meet so we can get some testing in there. Never done the full Taupo track on a chair...while it was running properly.

Do it on a Vic club day.

you should put those ideas to Bert.

[Drew]

you should put those ideas to Bert.

Dunno who you're talking about. Haven't seen him.

[nodrog]

Dunno who you're talking about. Haven't seen him.

He's the El Presidente, who is organising things.

flick him an email.

[sidecar bob]

Taupo small track is ideal for the have a go day because it is three left handers of very different style, with one right hander, (forget it with a virgin swinger on board) so perfect for giving swingers a first buzz, it's a short track, so three laps only take three minutes & that keeps the rides turning over, it's cheap to hire, its easy to marshall with only three points, & it already has a history of many have a go days.
Manfield would be a disaster with the infield complex that keeps an experienced swinger very busy even on a good day.

[Drew]

Taupo small track is ideal for the have a go day because it is three left handers of very different style, with one right hander, (forget it with a virgin swinger on board) so perfect for giving swingers a first buzz, it's a short track, so three laps only take three minutes & that keeps the rides turning over, it's cheap to hire, its easy to marshall with only three points, & it already has a history of many have a go days.
Manfield would be a disaster with the infield complex that keeps an experienced swinger very busy even on a good day.

Na bro, the BACK track at Manfeild is four or five right hand turns and one left. It's short as well. Better track than Taupo for the purpose I think, but lacking in facilities perhaps.

[nodrog]

Na bro, the BACK track at Manfeild is four or five right hand turns and one left. It's short as well. Better track than Taupo for the purpose I think, but lacking in facilities perhaps.

are you allowed to run it backwards? rights are dumb for a HAGD passenger.

[Drew]

are you allowed to run it backwards? rights are dumb for a HAGD passenger.

Yep, would be a nice easy transition for them in and out of the right too. Unlike Taupo.

[Grumph]

Yep, would be a nice easy transition for them in and out of the right too. Unlike Taupo.

I've personally never seen it used so can't visualise the problems - but....

In NZ now, Motorsport NZ have a policy similar to the FIA of only approving circuits - or part of circuits - for use in one direction only. Motorcycling NZ don't have the balls to go against this these days so the days of doing a couple of races in the "wrong" direction at a club day have gone for ever.

I would assume the extension has been approved to run in the same direction and as a part of the main circuit so no reverse direction running would be accepted. If you have an MNZ steward and a permit for the HAGD, you'd have to accept the rules too....

[nodrog]

Yep, would be a nice easy transition for them in and out of the right too. Unlike Taupo.

choice sounds chur, hit Bertros up.


..... If you have an MNZ steward and a permit for the HAGD.....

all that's required is common sense, we'll have to find some of that too.

[nodrog]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/07-07-BMW-GG-R1150-QUAD-ATV-TRIKE-GRUTER-GUT-1-700-MILES-/131362453032?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1e95cff628

[Kickaha]

all that's required is common sense, we'll have to find some of that too.
I don't think we have much chance of running one then

Loaded your engine in the van today, carting more crap north for people than our own gear, anyone else need anything bought North?

[Drew]

I've personally never seen it used so can't visualise the problems - but....

In NZ now, Motorsport NZ have a policy similar to the FIA of only approving circuits - or part of circuits - for use in one direction only. Motorcycling NZ don't have the balls to go against this these days so the days of doing a couple of races in the "wrong" direction at a club day have gone for ever.

I would assume the extension has been approved to run in the same direction and as a part of the main circuit so no reverse direction running would be accepted. If you have an MNZ steward and a permit for the HAGD, you'd have to accept the rules too....
The extension isn't actually signed off by MNZ in either direction, that little Harris fuckwit screwed that for us. And the HAGD and Sidecar racing association are not MNZ affiliated.

If Manfeild let is run it anti clockwise, then we're good to o go.


choice sounds chur, hit Bertros up.



all that's required is common sense, we'll have to find some of that too.
Let's not try and use that argument to sell anyone on the idea, we be laughed off the track.

OK, what is Bert's email addy?

[nodrog]

Loaded your engine in the van today

does it look cool?




OK, what is Bert's email addy?

bertsbackdoor.com or something. should be on the NZSRA emails you get.

or you can track him down through the arsebook page.

[Kickaha]

does it look cool?
Looks like a pile of scrap alloy


Time to start building some 600 motors
http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10404&t=1

[racer40]

hey Kickha, if your bringing up everyones shit you may as well chuck your bucket sidecar in there as well, if its cheap

[Shaun Harris]

The extension isn't actually signed off by MNZ in either direction, that little Harris fuckwit screwed that for us. And the HAGD and Sidecar racing association are not MNZ affiliated.

If Manfeild let is run it anti clockwise, then we're good to o go.


Let's not try and use that argument to sell anyone on the idea, we be laughed off the track.

OK, what is Bert's email addy?


Helping keep people safer is a pleasure mate. Not you of course though.

[sidecar bob]

Helping keep people safer is a pleasure mate. Not you of course though.

It won't affect you until 2019 at the earliest though. Maybe this should be revisited & those who are licensed should decide.

[Kickaha]

hey Kickha, if your bringing up everyones shit you may as well chuck your bucket sidecar in there as well, if its cheap
Not sure there will be room left after the MTB goes in but I'll see


Helping keep people safer is a pleasure mate.
You mean fucking things up for everyone

[Drew]

Helping keep people safer is a pleasure mate. Not you of course though.

Don't talk shit ya little cunt. You wanted attention, and thought it would be a good way to do it. Fuck, you rode at Wanganui with serious head injury symptoms. Like you give a rats arse about anyone else and their safety.

Curl up and die cunt.

[Kickaha]

Curl up and die cunt.
I think you should stop taking it easy on him and tell him how you really feel

[nodrog]

The 'have a go day for sidecars is not happening' this year.


can someone with an arsebook login and more tact than me polity remind robert that he is not affiliated with the nzsra and that he should not be making such brash statements.

he needs to correct his posts, clarifying that the Hagd is just not being run in conjunction with this event this year.

its not his call to dissapoint 100's of people, thats Berts job.

[sidecar bob]

can someone with an arsebook login and more tact than me politely

So yeah, calling pretty much anyone with a facebook log on except Drew.

[nodrog]

So yeah, calling pretty much anyone with a facebook log on except Drew.

Or Aaron Lovell, that dirty cunt will just get his junk out and whack off.

[Shaun Harris]

Don't talk shit ya little cunt. You wanted attention, and thought it would be a good way to do it. Fuck, you rode at Wanganui with serious head injury symptoms. Like you give a rats arse about anyone else and their safety.

Curl up and die cunt.




Haha And "WON" again, some thing you never seem to be able to do, but you can type real purdy though. Shame you fail to also mention the "FACT" that I reccognised myself ( Even with being given MEDICAL clearance to race again) that I was not the full quid, so went streight to a bottle store and purchased beer and just drank that instead of racing more that day- so I eliminated myself from the event due to my own safety concerns for all involved.

Carry on enjoying being a cock suker though drew

[Stirts]

can someone with an arsebook login and more tact than me polity remind robert that he is not affiliated with the nzsra and that he should not be making such brash statements.

he needs to correct his posts, clarifying that the Hagd is just not being run in conjunction with this event this year.

its not his call to dissapoint 100's of people, thats Berts job.


So yeah, calling pretty much anyone with a facebook log on except Drew.

I have posted a "tactful" request...

I am a little concerned that Robert has made the following statement...
"The 'have a go day for sidecars is not happening this year"

I believe this will pose a lot of confusion and lead the general public, who are interested in attending a HAGD, to believe that it is not happening at all. A lot of people have put some hard work to get HAGD where it is today, I would hate to see it compromised in any way.

As an affiliated member of the NZSRA I am requesting that Robert, who is not an affiliated member, amend the statement/s within this page to clarify that HAGD is not being run in conjunction with this event this year. Thank You

[nodrog]

I have posted a "tactful" request...

I am a little concerned that Robert has made the following statement...
"The 'have a go day for sidecars is not happening this year"

I believe this will pose a lot of confusion and lead the general public, who are interested in attending a HAGD, to believe that it is not happening at all.

As an affiliated member of the NZSRA I am requesting that Robert, who is not an affiliated member, amend the statement/s within this page to clarify that HAGD is not being run in conjunction with this event this year. Thank You

Where's all the fucks and cunts?

[Stirts]

Where's all the fucks and cunts?

Saving that for when you get home :devil2:

[sidecar bob]

Saving that for when you get home :devil2:

What about the assholes?

[Stirts]

What about the assholes?

Can't forget assholes!!

309523

[Drew]

Haha And "WON" again, some thing you never seem to be able to do, but you can type real purdy though. Shame you fail to also mention the "FACT" that I reccognised myself ( Even with being given MEDICAL clearance to race again) that I was not the full quid, so went streight to a bottle store and purchased beer and just drank that instead of racing more that day- so I eliminated myself from the event due to my own safety concerns for all involved.

Carry on enjoying being a cock suker though drewWhatever dickhead. You care for no one but your slef, don't try and bulshit us.


What about the assholes?
Shaun is here.

[nodrog]

What about the assholes?

Its choice cos our neighbours are deaf.

[sidecar bob]

In light of a few things that have come up on the book of arses & seeing as I don't have an arsebook profile, I'll put it here.
There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding how the coroners court works & the running of mixed classic & modern sidecar classes.
The coroners court is basically a system that gets to the bottom of why a fatality happens, using all relevant witnesses & experts in the field concerned, gives answers & hopefully some closure to the family's of the deceased & makes suggestions or recommendations on how best to avoid a repeat of any such avoidable tragic event, be it a man falling off a roof, or a sidecar crash.
It is not a system that can punish & is not in the business of creating law, or enforcing it.
As a result of the Alan incident, the coroner recommended, based on the information he received, some of it perhaps a little distorted, that sidecar classes should not be mixed. This not enforceable or punishable unless written into MNZ rules, it is merely one mans educated opinion, for what that is worth.
Hope this clears up any confusion.

[Kickaha]

Whatever dickhead. You care for no one but your slef, don't try and bulshit us.
I'm getting worried about you, you're much more restrained since you've been working in Oz

[kiwi cowboy]

I don't think we have much chance of running one then

Loaded your engine in the van today, carting more crap north for people than our own gear, anyone else need anything bought North?

na but ya can bring a bike back with ya:yes:

[Kickaha]

na but ya can bring a bike back with ya:yes:

Probably dont have room for a whole bike, but what is it?

[Shaun Harris]

Whatever dickhead. You care for no one but your slef, don't try and bulshit us.


Shaun is here.



O that is so true, I get no love on here

[kiwi cowboy]

Probably dont have room for a whole bike, but what is it?

Lol its a fzr750 that is in Auckland but may get it cheep enough to justify the trans cost.
prolly end up in a sidecar before I got it anyway:innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::inn ocent:

[Kickaha]

Lol its a fzr750 that is in Auckland but may get it cheep enough to justify the trans cost.
prolly end up in a sidecar before I got it anyway:innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::inn ocent:

It would be to big to fit in the van anyway and it would only be the gearbox anyone would be interested in

[swarfie]

Helping keep people safer is a pleasure mate. Not you of course though.


You mean fucking things up for everyone


Don't talk shit ya little cunt. You wanted attention, and thought it would be a good way to do it. Fuck, you rode at Wanganui with serious head injury symptoms. Like you give a rats arse about anyone else and their safety.

Curl up and die cunt.


I think you should stop taking it easy on him and tell him how you really feel

Jeez...I go away for two weeks riding in the Big Island and come back to find nothing has changed....you buggers are still at it :angry2::wings::violin::shifty::facepalm:

[Kickaha]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLpPUicabX8

[Kickaha]

Awesome bit of kit built quite some time back

http://www.racetrack-news.de/2015/03/technic-thursday-helsta-sidecar.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TeVUm14UzTI/U0L_rQ38x0I/AAAAAAAAJcw/vZ_mGraCeDI/s1600/0Z2D6231.JPG

[Kickaha]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=53879

Shelbourne Chassis Built in Dec 1999 not used until 2000 then used till 2006 then never raced since.

- 6 wheels with 2 sets of discs
- 2010 Suzuki Gsxr 600 engine fitted with Tony Baker Sump
- Power Commander 5 and auto tune brand new in box still
- Maxton Suspension
-All new oil cooler and pipes
- All new water pipes and hoses
-Akrapovic exhaust with spare end can
-Full set of shelbourne fairings tatty but usable

Bike has not yet run needs wiring loom fitting all parts to get the bike running will be included in the sale , will make very good bike .

£8750

Josh 07904971281

[nodrog]

Awesome bit of kit built quite some time back

http://www.racetrack-news.de/2015/03/technic-thursday-helsta-sidecar.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TeVUm14UzTI/U0L_rQ38x0I/AAAAAAAAJcw/vZ_mGraCeDI/s1600/0Z2D6231.JPG

I just came in my pants.

[scrivy]

I just came in my pants.

Rather that than you come in my pants...... :rolleyes:

[scrivy]

Funny what they have in the Taupo paper......

Is Kicks butt in need of a challenge??? :scratch:

[nodrog]

Funny what they have in the Taupo paper......

Is Kicks butt in need of a challenge??? :scratch:

Fuck that, it might be a pie eating challenge.

[scrivy]

Fuck that, it might be a pie eating challenge.

EH??? If its got anything to do with Kicks butt and eating, then it'll be a felching challenge at best.....
You'll win that for sure Gordie..... :clap::devil2:

[nodrog]

EH??? If its got anything to do with Kicks butt and eating, then it'll be a felching challenge at best.....
You'll win that for sure Gordie..... :clap::devil2:

Only if you give my felching tube back you thieving cunt

[scrivy]

Only if you give my felching tube back you thieving cunt

You lied to me bro..... you said it was long enough to self felch.......:eek5:

[nodrog]

You lied to me bro..... you said it was long enough to self felch.......:eek5:

Yeah but I'm shorter than you.

[Kickaha]

Fuck that, it might be a pie eating challenge.

I've gone off pies since those cunts on the Interislander mislabelled a mince and cheese pie as mince, now I'm too scared to take a bite of any pie in case it has cheese in it

Knock us up a copy of that sidecar Gordy

[jellywrestler]

I've gone off pies since those cunts on the Interislander
you're even more stupider than i thought eating anything on the Interislander!

[jellywrestler]

Only if you give my felching tube back you thieving cunt

Scrivy stocks them mainly for the Tokoroa customers, he'll be able to send one to ya.

[nodrog]

Knock us up a copy of that sidecar Gordy

I'd love to but because one has never raced at Wanganui they never existed, therefore are ineligible.

[Kickaha]

NZ Nationals Hampton Downs

The drive up North is a reasonable hike so we split it by staying in Blenheim the night, that still leaves a 12 hr ferry/drive the next day and we extended that a bit with a side trip to Tauranga to drop some motors and parts off, look at bikes and talk shit for bit

Hampton Downs

We’re out at the track the next day and get all our gear setup on the skid pan and ready to go

BSTT in October was the last time we were at Hampton Downs so we take the first session fairly easy to reacquaint ourselves with the track and dial it up a bit more for session 2

The weathers alternating between wet and dry and for the last session we’re on wets and get a few good laps in before pulling back into the pits, we can hear air leaking from somewhere and find a chain clip embedded in the rear tyre

With the forecast for showers over the weekend we need it fixed and I plan on doing it at our Pukekohe branch the next day

Saturday

Once riders briefing is over I bolt for Pukekohe to get the tyre repaired and while doing that get a txt telling me we’re up in 5 minutes

I’d assumed practice was the same as race order and hadn’t checked but that wasn’t the case so we miss that session

Qualifying goes ok and we end up off P7 but a couple of seconds slower than last time we were here

It’s a fairly long day as we’re the last class and when we finally get the call there’s a few little spits of rain as we get up to the dummy grid

As we wait it starts pissing down and with time running out the race is cancelled and rescheduled for first race the next day

Race 1
It’s full wet when we get the call up and we head out and around to line up on the grid
Lights out and our start is a lot better than some of those around us, we pass the row in front of us and down into make another pas and go up into third

Adam/Stu gift us another position when they spin in T3 and all of a sudden we’re up into 2nd
It’s another lap before the guys behind us get their act together and Colin/Robbie come past and then Adam/Stu making up for their spin, next it’s Dave/Tony going really well and then the red flags are out as Des/Dean have rolled over into T6

The restart has got to be one of the worst I’ve done and we’re last off the line, lap 2 and pushing to make up time and we spin in T6, I think we’re going to be upside down for a second but Will drops down into the tray and stops it coming up further and we’re underway again

A lap later and we do a half spin in T4 and give the tyres a nudge, Will pushes us back off them and we’re back in the race

We’re the last one home and just glad to finish

A check over and back onto slicks for Race2

4 laps in and going ok when Will taps me and we pull over after T1, his visor has come off on one side and the clip has gone so it can’t be reattached and we sit the rest of it out on the sideline

Race 3
We clear the guys slower than us early on and maintain a gap and then partway through some light rain starts and we back it off a bit

As we exit T4 I catch a glimpse of the bunch behind us and think we’re pretty safe
Coming out of T5 Tracey/Tina give us a bit of a fright when they pull alongside on the F2 bike and the gap seems to have disappeared

Lap 11 and the three top teams come past, I can hear Tracey/Tina behind us but we’re in front coming down into T6 knowing if they get past we can still beat them up the hill
Sure enough they come alongside turning out of T6 and aiming up the hill and I’m thankful for the extra HP of the F1 using it to outrun them up to the line to finish 6th

Overall it didn’t go quite as good as we’d hoped with the dnf but we had a reasonable time and gained a few more points and we're looking forward to Taupo


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[nodrog]

anybody got any shocks they don't want anymore?

[Kickaha]

anybody got any shocks they don't want anymore?

Yes.......

[nodrog]

Yes.......

sidecar ones? not ford transit.

[Kickaha]

sidecar ones? not ford transit.

You didn't originally specify that

twins shocks? are you allowed a remote reservoir

[nodrog]

You didn't originally specify that

twins shocks? are you allowed a remote reservoir

only if somebody ran one at the whangarei street race in 1968.

[Grumph]

only if somebody ran one at the whangarei street race in 1968.

Don't you mean the King Country GP in Taurmaranui in '57 ?

Personally, I'd go for the transit shocks...how much suspension do you need anyway ?

Edit - on reflection, period rear suspension is a lump of rubber in compression and something like a transit shock anyway. For the front pair, I can probably find you a pair of clapped out Girlings which will accurately replicate the period. They were crap from new anyway.

[nodrog]

Don't you mean the King Country GP in Taurmaranui in '57 ?

Personally, I'd go for the transit shocks...how much suspension do you need anyway ?

Edit - on reflection, period rear suspension is a lump of rubber in compression and something like a transit shock anyway. For the front pair, I can probably find you a pair of clapped out Girlings which will accurately replicate the period. They were crap from new anyway.

I can probably get some hagons for the front, just need to work out the spring rate. Thinking about some sort of mono shock on the back.

I must check whats in the beemer, it seems to suspend warwicks fat arse quite well.

[Kickaha]

Thinking about some sort of mono shock on the back.
I have a couple of nice Koni in the shed I could do for about $2000 each
310246
In the free pile
310247


I must check whats in the beemer, it seems to suspend warwicks fat arse quite well.
Price just went up quite a bit

[nodrog]

I have a couple of nice Koni in the shed I could do for about $2000 each
310246
In the free pile
310247


Price just went up quite a bit

You're looking good theses days warwick, I love you.

tek me you bank account

[Kickaha]

You're looking good theses days warwick, I love you.
That will probably only last until you take delivery

[nodrog]

That will probably only last until you take delivery

Yeah probably.

[Souther flags]

Dosnt Matter by then Warwick would have your money.

[scrivy]

Yeah probably.

...and Kick would have removed all the internals....

[Danger Dave]

If you want a mono shock for the rear i have a K7 GSXR1000 shock at home.