Sidecar Racing

[sidecar bob]

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It looks better than that too!
Hey look Scrivy, theres our beds out of the Hi ace!!

[Fast Eddie]

Mo's still in Richmond, Nelson. He moved a while back so i don't have a number now but the pub at lunchime will find him...

The annual outing to the GP at Ruapuna seems to be his only trip outside Nelson now. I must come along on the Friday to see his reaction....

Maybe it should be a formal thing...all the guys who know him at an unveiling ?

Haha im keen for an unveiling :) I'll see if I can dig up a number but maybe just wait until the GP at Ruapuna - the bike is going to be up on the North Island until then anyway :) Old Mo should come on kiwibiker haha!


Looks bloody mint. I wouldn't get too worried about a sticker that is a bit wobbly, most people are only going to see it from a distance and at speed anyway. Excellent job, can't wait to see it in the flesh. Cheers :D


You should ask him for a loan of the AGIP leathers haha.. I bet he isn't 6 foot tall.. might be a squeeze. Would be cool though!


fuck that, would you let anyone you know get in those! David Attenborough could do a Doco series on what probably lives and has lived in those...
lol... yum

picture of sidecar ready to go*
shit yea, better fire it up and get some oil temp up!


Yeah, because you would only need one set then.
Eddie, Take another look at that old clip that ends with the Scrivy crash (I had nothing to do with it) & see the deck extension on the Agip outfit that extends behind the rear wheel. For some reason it has been removed over the years & I wonder if it should be re fitted.
It seemed to work quite well & I dont think you will find another passenger anywhere, that got as far right & as far left as Vince did, he was an extremely comitted passenger.
The thing is, that people buy a NZ title winner, as was the case with the Agip outfit, & then think they can make it faster with some hair brained mods, in their first ever year on sidecars.
I suspect it stems from people thinking that they should be faster than they are & blaming the equipment, before they even begin to grasp the basics of how it all works.

Yea, we noticed that platform out the back a while back.. I'll ask Vince about it maybe, Dave and Vince were still racing it when it was modified and the back platform was removed, it was about the time they switched from that 1100ish CC motor to the 1000cc water cooled unit it has now old FZR unit.. We thought maybe the platform put too much weight out back and unloaded the front wheel. Anyway will ask about it :)

we are all about going as fast as the bike can go - we know (think) its already set up pretty fairly well so we just leave it alone and try and learn how to ride it :D (plus the suspension/chassis has a decent range of adjustments that I know nothing about.. so best to leave it alone for now haha)

But I know what your saying here "& then think they can make it faster with some hair brained mods, in their first ever year on sidecars.
I suspect it stems from people thinking that they should be faster than they are & blaming the equipment, before they even begin to grasp the basics of how it all works.." haha sounds kinda like the other Mo bike we have racing down here :D

[Fast Eddie]

Bike Tranz update..

my bike was too fat (wide) to fit on their trailer/transporter :)

So they will pick it up with their bigger truck thats coming down to pick up some weighty Harleys next weekish.

Will keep ya posted...

[scrivy]

(plus the suspension/chassis has a decent range of adjustments that I know nothing about.. so best to leave it alone for now haha)


Ow.... I'll have a tinker with it..... I love changing suspension settings.....:rolleyes::shifty:

[Fast Eddie]

:D haha.. you play with mine and I'll play with yours

[scrivy]

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Looking good Gordy.
What sort of dollars to get it blasted and painted?:confused:

[jellywrestler]

Bike Tranz update..

my bike was too fat (wide) to fit on their trailer/transporter :)

So they will pick it up with their bigger truck thats coming down to pick up some weighty Harleys next weekish.

Will keep ya posted...

so you let your signwriter measure your bike too, time to change your name to Slow Eddie methinks!

[jellywrestler]

It seemed to work quite well & I dont think you will find another passenger anywhere, that got as far right & as far left as Vince did, he was an extremely comitted passenger.
If you knew a bit about passengering then last thing you need to aim for is to be as far right and as far left as one can. Vince used to tell me I wasn't doing it right, funny thing is for him to see that we had to be in front of him, it use to fuck him and Dave Beresford off when I'd give them the fingers through the esses at Wanganui.

Vince didn't understand the first rule in racing in the old days (and still applicable nowadays), and that was that the drive wheel needs to have the best traction possible, after all isn't the goal of racing to be the quickest and when your wheels spinning it's wasted traction. Classic you'll probably find on you tube for example is He used to jump in the deck coming out of the Paeroa hairpin as soon as the bike straightened up spreading his lard across the rear and the sidewheel approx 50% on each. You could hear and see the thing wheelspinning into fourth gear and maybe more when the done thing to do is apply all of your lard over the rear wheel until it wasn't wheelspinning, forget the sidecar wheel as ideally that should be airborne unless underbrakes or in righthanders. The sidecar wheel is toed in so in a straight line creates drag; drag isn't procative for racing is it really?
Thing is at Paeroa they won so no point in saying anything, and why tell the opposition how improve eh?

[Kickaha]

haha.. I bet he isn't 6 foot tall.. might be a squeeze. Would be cool though!
Two of you would probably fit in side by side

" haha sounds kinda like the other Mo bike we have racing down here :D
That was my first thought when I read that comment
4 years to go as fast as the old team on the same bike and that's with improvements, to brakes, handling and more hp:msn-wink:

:D haha.. you play with mine and I'll play with yours
You sound gayer everyday

[scrivy]

Thing is at Paeroa they won so no point in saying anything, and why tell the opposition how improve eh?

Maybe they wanted to lay big long black lines and still win whilst having fun................ I know someone else that likes to do that also...... :shifty:
As Bob said at a sidecar riders brief one year - "If you can lift the sidewheel, or wave to the spectators while racing, then do it....." (Even if it does slow you down)

Me thinks they were obviously way faster than their competition at that time and place........ so they could afford to have fun..... and the biggest thing about street meetings, that the spectators enjoy the display, and even more important, they'll be back to watch the following year..... hopefully!

[jellywrestler]

Me thinks they were obviously way faster than their competition at that time and place........ maybe at paeroa (i used Paeroa as an example as that's on you tube), not so everywhere else, my point is he had one position for 95% of left handers, as far off as he could get when often he only needed to go part way to keep the wheel low and get as much traction through the rear wheel, be quicker through the corner, higher exit speed and less energy expended too.
A lot of swingers simply don't sit down and work out what they need to do, they just think it's as far left and as far right.
Take a look at tony price for example, he had a few clues about how to do it well too.

[Fast Eddie]

so you let your signwriter measure your bike too, time to change your name to Slow Eddie methinks!

? no.. my bikes in chch but I live in Dunedin and used Dunedin signwriter..

why would he need to measure the bike. I drew out/sketched where all the stickers would go/look like on the primered fairings and then measured everything and gave them a list of instructions. (ie, Team, height of capitol T 140mm, length of word 350mm) etc. for each sticker.

anyway - it ended up looking all good to me so who cares?

edit: I get ya, about transporter lol. nope no one measured the bike or asked its dimensions :) I know how wide it is.. no one asked. They said they were bringing a truck so I assumed they were not concerned about size

[jellywrestler]

? no.. my bikes in chch but I live in Dunedin and used Dunedin signwriter..

why would he need to measure the bike. I drew out/sketched where all the stickers would go/look like on the primered fairings and then measured everything and gave them a list of instructions. (ie, Team, height of capitol T 140mm, length of word 350mm) etc. for each sticker.

anyway - it ended up looking all good to me so who cares?

Read this real slow now Eddie.

The bike didn't fit in the bike tranz unit

the signwriting was the incorrect size

maybe the person who measured the bike to see whether it fitted in the bike tranz trailer was the signwriter cause they both got it wrong?

and somebody said you were at at university??

[Fast Eddie]

Two of us would probably fit in side by side

naw :love:


and that's with improvements, to brakes, handling and more hp:msn-wink:
haha, hes keeping eveyone honest tho ;)


You sound gayer everyday
part of getting old.. eventually I get to your level

[Fast Eddie]

Read this real slow now Eddie.

The bike didn't fit in the bike tranz unit

the signwriting was the incorrect size

maybe the person who measured the bike to see whether it fitted in the bike tranz trailer was the signwriter cause they both got it wrong?

and somebody said you were at at university??

haha I edited it before you got to reply ;)

no one measured bike for transporter, no one asked.

haha - and still you didn't get the point - who cares what the measurements were specifically for the signwriting. I told signwriter to make sticker 140mm high, he gave me 100mm high. etc. the problem was, I asked for 140 and he didn't give me 140. but in the end it looks good i recon, pretty close to the photos I have - close enough to get the jist of it.

edit: hehe.. I am enrolled at uni yes.. why? ;)

[scrivy]

and somebody said you were at at university??

Where is AT University?? :bleh:

[Fast Eddie]

people get nervous around me and start stuttering..

I really should put pants on more often

[sidecar bob]

If you knew a bit about passengering

Yeah, im hoping to learn a bit more this season.
Maybe you could fill in for me at Hampton Downs.

[scrivy]

Yeah, im hoping to learn a bit more this season.

Chur!! You go and commentate and Spyda can serve up the homai te aki!!! :whistle:

You make a great commentator - talking about 'Ken'.............

[jellywrestler]

haha I edited it before you got to reply ;)

no one measured bike for transporter, no one asked.


two clowns for the price of one then, classic.

[sidecar bob]

Chur!! You go and commentate and Spyda can serve up the homai te aki!!! :whistle:

You make a great commentator - talking about 'Ken'.............

Remember Timaru, whats his name got us to co commentate & when he asked me how I stay fit, I told the crowd id taken up Heineken lifting.
Id rather do Homai te aki than Homai te pakipaki!!

[Kickaha]

Yeah, im hoping to learn a bit more this season.

So you should be you fucking amatuer, I can give you some lessons when I'm up if Spyda isn't about

[sidecar bob]

two clowns for the price of one then, classic.

P.M.S.L, that pretty well sums up sidecar racing!!

[scrivy]

I really should put pants on more often

You got a big red clown nose Kai??? Bring it to Hampers.

[scrivy]

I can give you some lessons when I'm up Spyda

Gotcha ya gay fucker!!!! You're outted now buddy!!!

[scrivy]

I can give you some lessons when I'm up

You give Bob lessons???? Bwaaaahahahahahahahah :laugh::no:

and what do you mean 'when you're up'? Takes you a while to bar up these days Kick?? :devil2:

[scrivy]

two clowns for the price of one then, classic.
I like clowns.... You passenger for me on sat. Bob can do the bmw......

[jellywrestler]

I like clowns.... You passenger for me on sat.
me on a short bike ha fucking ha

[Kickaha]

If you knew a bit about passengering then last thing you need to aim for is to be as far right and as far left as one can.
At a pretty basic level like just starting out, left for left and right for right is probably as much as you need to think about and I think a common mistake would be just what you're describing

P.M.S.L, that pretty well sums up sidecar racing!!
Doesn't it just:rolleyes:

Takes you a while to bar up these days Kick?? :devil2:
Not since I started taking the pills the doc prescribed

me on a short bike ha fucking ha
Dont like them or not very good on them? funny how some bikes/riders seem to suit different people

[scrivy]

me on a short bike ha fucking ha

That's a bit rough Spyda!! Ya wouldn't get me taking the piss out of long bikes...... :bleh::msn-wink::rolleyes:

[Kickaha]

Ya wouldn't get me taking the piss out of long bikes..

Well why would ya seeing as you cant ride one for shit:bleh:

[scrivy]

At a pretty basic level like just starting out, left for left and right for right is probably as much as you need to think about and I think a common mistake would be just what you're describing


Well almost true............... sometimes Bob moves in a bit, so I can get extra chair lift to cut a corner, to get a better run for the next corner - the dipper at Ruapuna for example, or even turn 3 at Taupo.

Or he sits in the middle, but way further forward, so we get more rear wheel sliding for a higher speed right hander like turn 3 at the Creek.

I am blessed to have such a 'thinking' passenger on my rig, as most of the time he just knows where the best place to be is. If it doesn't work, I don't have to tell him, he already knows! He makes it look easy. And believe me, it aint!
Over the years, I've watched and listened to numerous teams nut out a lap of a circuit. Me and Bob just know! Eastern Creek for example - never seen the circuit, 1 warm up lap, 1 flying lap, and that's all we got last year, 1 lap! Qualified 4th out of 29 - behind 3 LCR's! Poor Bob never even got a chance to even view the circuit direction, but was in the right place at the right time for each corner (except turn 8.....:shifty:). LEGEND!! :niceone:

[scrivy]

Well why would ya seeing as you cant ride one for shit:bleh:

Only ridden one in semi-anger - Lawrance Bro's at end of 'Have-a-go day'.

It was a hoot!! I got the back wheel off the ground around the right hander after the hairy pin. You guys ever do that?? :no:
Slid the back around turn 1 - on full lock for a while (packed my undies on that one - as I was amazed with how little lock it had!!) :eek:

[jellywrestler]

Dont like them or not very good on them? funny how some bikes/riders seem to suit different people open your mouth so i can take the hook etc back out.
I won my last two National points races on a shorty and enjoyed every minute of it...

[scrivy]

open your mouth so i can take the hook etc back out.
I won my last two National points races on a shorty and enjoyed every minute of it...

Hamsters it is then!!

Do a live commentary from the side!! :niceone:

[sidecar bob]

Hamsters it is then!!

Do a live commentary from the side!! :niceone:

Seriously, that kind of shit sells racing to people. Remember the live commentaries from the likes of Dick Johnson at Bathurst.

[Kickaha]

Seriously, that kind of shit sells racing to people. Remember the live commentaries from the likes of Dick Johnson at Bathurst.

All you would hear is Spyda struggling to get his breath and then most likely spewing in his helmet

cant remember if this is already up but there's some onboard commentry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2UsGr1PvnA

[Pumba]

WTF I wanted to see how that last off ended. It didnt look to be going well.

Awesome vid though

[Kickaha]

WTF I wanted to see how that last off ended. It didnt look to be going well.

Awesome vid though

Not as badly as you might think


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_DZ1SXEoQ

Think that footage was used in one of the Minties adverts

[nodrog]

Looking good Gordy.
What sort of dollars to get it blasted and painted?:confused:

heaps. but I didnt really like it, so me and bob got out the paint stripper and waterblaster.

[scrivy]

heaps. but I didnt really like it, so me and bob got out the paint stripper and waterblaster.

Fark!! It's gunna assume that position this year again...... :bleh:

[Fast Eddie]

Think that footage was used in one of the Minties adverts

smash bang wollop.

good clip, watched that a few times before. only broke an arm or leg eh? not too bad.

sounds like it has a proper motor back then too

[Fast Eddie]

two clowns for the price of one then, classic.

... :yawn: you need two to ride a sidecar anyway, so the savings are welcome


You got a big red clown nose Kai??? Bring it to Hampers.

I've been known to dress up on occassion

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in this shot it doesn't show my lower body, so you can't see the big red clown nose.

[nodrog]

Fark!! It's gunna assume that position this year again...... :bleh:

Ɩ uɹnʇ oʇ noʎ ǝɔɐɹ

[scrivy]

Ɩ uɹnʇ oʇ noʎ ǝɔɐɹ

Why not the checked flag??

Can't go full distance??

[Kickaha]

Why not the checked flag??

Can't go full distance??

How long are the races?, not more than 2-3 laps I hope otherwise I might get a bit tired

[nodrog]

Why not the checked flag??

Can't go full distance??

Its all about the straights man!


How long are the races?, not more than 2-3 laps I hope otherwise I might get a bit tired

Think of the poor beemer, it has to carry you.

[sidecar bob]

Well almost true............... sometimes Bob moves in a bit, so I can get extra chair lift to cut a corner, to get a better run for the next corner - the dipper at Ruapuna for example, or even turn 3 at Taupo.

Or he sits in the middle, but way further forward, so we get more rear wheel sliding for a higher speed right hander like turn 3 at the Creek.

I am blessed to have such a 'thinking' passenger on my rig, as most of the time he just knows where the best place to be is. If it doesn't work, I don't have to tell him, he already knows! He makes it look easy. And believe me, it aint!
Over the years, I've watched and listened to numerous teams nut out a lap of a circuit. Me and Bob just know! Eastern Creek for example - never seen the circuit, 1 warm up lap, 1 flying lap, and that's all we got last year, 1 lap! Qualified 4th out of 29 - behind 3 LCR's! Poor Bob never even got a chance to even view the circuit direction, but was in the right place at the right time for each corner (except turn 8.....:shifty:). LEGEND!! :niceone:

And all I was doing was trying not to fall off & get used as a soccer ball by 24 sidecars.
All I can say, is that the sidecar tells you what to do, if it feels wrong, then its probably wrong.
I have quite often lately considered making a dvd, how to swing on a sidecar, with Ritchie Lawrence, Rat, Kick & maybe Spyda as the voice over, narrator guy, to help the new guys to racing.
Does anybody think that would be a good idea?

[nodrog]

Does anybody think that would be a good idea?

As long as all those guys leave their helmets on I reckon it would be a choice idea.

[Kickaha]

I have quite often lately considered making a dvd, how to swing on a sidecar, with Ritchie Lawrence, Rat, Kick & maybe Spyda as the voice over, narrator guy, to help the new guys to racing.
Does anybody think that would be a good idea?

Don't see anything wrong with it, there's a video called "On any other Sunday" shot in the UK club scene which has some good instructional stuff in it about swinging on different outfits

Even with the two long outfits I've spent time on there were major differences between them so there's no "one size fits all"

Best thing I found in my first couple of years was following similar outfits and watching what the more experienced guys did

[Fast Eddie]

I have quite often lately considered making a dvd, how to swing on a sidecar,
Does anybody think that would be a good idea?

yip..

if you made a bunch of raw footage I can edit it down etc of it if no one up there can do it. and then you voice over the edited footage. and then burn many many copies on dvd and hand them out at race/club meetings :D

promo shit..

even girls in singlets handing it out..

[Fast Eddie]

there's a video called "On any other Sunday"

can't find that one.. I've got "On any sunday" though.. more about motorbike racing in general.. with about 5 minutes dedicated to sidecars.

[Kickaha]

can't find that one.. I've got "On any sunday" though.. more about motorbike racing in general.. with about 5 minutes dedicated to sidecars.

Different video, I lent my copy out and haven't seen it since:(

[Fast Eddie]

Different video, I lent my copy out and haven't seen it since:(

always the way! bastards, seems damn hard to find a free copy anyway haha.. might be able to buy a copy online

[Fast Eddie]

just a cut n paste from Agip bikes old swinger Vince..


"..With regard to the rear platform extention....it was deemed illegal as according to the rules (at the time) no platform could extend behind the rear wheel and thus we were forced to cut it off. Not sure about the current regs...haven't bothered to read them of late."

"..and yes....we ran a similar engine to yours....1989 FZ1000 A (later modified to B spec) although we had 39mm flatslide Keihin carbs...yours appear to be standard.."
end

- it used to run some 1135 motor eh, then switched to the unit or similar it has now.

wouldn't mind some sweet carbs if they fell in my lap :D

[jellywrestler]

- it used to run some 1135 motor eh, then switched to the unit or similar it has now.

BTW the 1135 motor came from the Norris Farrow/Blair Briggs Plastic Fantastic

[sidecar bob]

BTW the 1135 motor came from the Norris Farrow/Blair Briggs Plastic Fantastic

Now your bike?

[jellywrestler]

Now your bike?

no mines the Dave Hiscock/ Robert Holden Plastic Fantastic it started life with a GS1000R then a GSX1100 whereas the other PF had a GSX1135 motor

[Stirts]

I reckon it would be a choice idea.

You know what I reckon would be an even choicer and betterer idea? To FARKING POST UP SOME PICS OF THAT FARKING SIDECAR OF YOURS!!!

Don't make naggy, you won't like me when I am naggy.

[Fast Eddie]

haha, post #749 page 50

[Stirts]

haha, post #749 page 50

That was so post #749 page 50 ago. Looks way betterer than THAT now!!!

[Fast Eddie]

pics then...

I don't believe it :D

[sidecar bob]

You know what I reckon would be an even choicer and betterer idea? To FARKING POST UP SOME PICS OF THAT FARKING SIDECAR OF YOURS!!!

Don't make naggy, you won't like me when I am naggy.

Im going to suggest witholding activity until said pics are posted. Can you work with me on this one?
It dosent work when I hold out on him.

[Stirts]

Im going to suggest witholding activity until said pics are posted. Can you work with me on this one?

:scratch: ok, no more Tui deliveries in the garage until pics are posted. :whistle:


It dosent work when I hold out on him.

Oh he is just playing hard to want ;)

[nodrog]

You know what I reckon would be an even choicer and betterer idea? To FARKING POST UP SOME PICS OF THAT FARKING SIDECAR OF YOURS!!!

Don't make naggy, you won't like me when I am naggy.

How about you stop wearing your undies inside out?


Im going to suggest witholding activity until said pics are posted.

No playdough or macaroony pictures? stink for me.

[nodrog]

Im getting hungry, so I had 2 choices, learn how to cook, or post some pics.

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[Kickaha]

Im getting hungry, so I had 2 choices, learn how to cook, or post some pics

Looks fucking mint, I see you've ditched the 12 year + old tyres, few bits of tube been cut off and looks like master cylinder mount swapped back across to the left

There's a hole in the chassis where a crossover for the gear change used to run, did the later motor bolt up to the earlier mounts? front one looks a bit more substantial than what was on there

I'd be surprised if it needs the damper, we took the one off that it originally had

[Fast Eddie]

naw jealous.. looks mint! i like the rims.. alloys?

what sorta motor?

[Fast Eddie]

Flights up to Auckland booked/paid.

Jet Star - Flight JQ244 20/10/2012 leaving Christchurch at 6.45am and arrive in Auckland at 8.05am.. pushing it, when did they want us at the track for sign on/scrutineering etc etc? maybe someone can fill in for me until I arrive at the track.. I assume my bike will be there waiting for me :)

we haven't got return flights yet.. not important.. we might like it so much up north we'll stay haha

[Kickaha]

naw jealous.. looks mint! i like the rims.. alloys?

Alloy rims, but they're an arse because you have to unbolt the wheel centres and split them to change the tyres

[Fast Eddie]

they look like the 1 alloy I have on my agip bike.. it looks like a 2 piece hotwire rim.. if only I had more of them haha think I've got 8/9 rims lying around. 6 have got tyres on.

[sidecar bob]

naw jealous.. looks mint! i like the rims.. alloys?

what sorta motor?

Theyre three piece Halliday's. NZ made I think. Heaps of sidecars had them twenty odd years ago.
You can buy lighter wheels that arent as flimsy from your local tyre shop for less than they cost now.
The motor is the ZX10 from the ex Scrivy, Porteous (aus) bulit outfit. Multiple NZ & Aussie national title holder.

[sidecar bob]

Alloy rims, but they're an arse because you have to unbolt the wheel centres and split them to change the tyres

What would you know about changing those tyres? They were last replaced when you were about twelve.:facepalm:

[Grumph]

Theyre three piece Halliday's. NZ made I think. Heaps of sidecars had them twenty odd years ago.
You can buy lighter wheels that arent as flimsy from your local tyre shop for less than they cost now.
The motor is the ZX10 from the ex Scrivy, Porteous (aus) bulit outfit. Multiple NZ & Aussie national title holder.

Out of curiosity, what happened to the old motor ? i remember it going quite well after I dialled the cams in....

[nodrog]

Looks fucking mint, I see you've ditched the 12 year + old tyres, few bits of tube been cut off and looks like master cylinder mount swapped back across to the left

There's a hole in the chassis where a crossover for the gear change used to run, did the later motor bolt up to the earlier mounts? front one looks a bit more substantial than what was on there

I'd be surprised if it needs the damper, we took the one off that it originally had

I swapped the master cylinders inboard as they probably cost more than I payed for the chassis, and I dont want to rip them off going around the outside of scrivy at turn 1 at hampsters.

The engine mounts are the same, just have new bolts, and since we are in the '90's I changed them to metric. The frame needed to be modified to clear the carbs, and the front oil line. The motor has righthand side gear shaft (actually it goes both ways).

I need a steering dampner, I have the arms of an 8 year old girl.




what sorta motor?

The motor is Dip and Biscuit's old one, they repowerd their sidecar with an 08 ZX10, its an 89 ZX10. Its got a couple of go fast bits, like new sparkplugs, and an orange rocker cover.

Andrew Scrivener might know a little bit about it, I think it used to belong to him at some stage.


they look like the 1 alloy I have on my agip bike.. it looks like a 2 piece hotwire rim.. if only I had more of them haha think I've got 8/9 rims lying around. 6 have got tyres on.

1 rim is no good to you, you may as well give it to me (lets call it rent for sleeping in my van) :sunny: And I believe they are 3 piece Halliday rims, and Warrick is right, they are a prick to change tyres on until you get your missus with the reacharound fisting action to help.

[sidecar bob]

Out of curiosity, what happened to the old motor ? i remember it going quite well after I dialled the cams in....

A guy in Ohaupo near Hamilton bought the whole outfit just for the motor to put in some Kawasaki pre '89 bike.
Thought he said ZX10, but could be wrong.
I found the chassis accidentaly while looking for some 35mm CR's that I think you gave me a lead on.
Ended up buying new ones, but saved this chassis from being scrapped in the process.

[nodrog]

Theyre three piece Halliday's. NZ made I think. Heaps of sidecars had them twenty odd years ago.
You can buy lighter wheels that arent as flimsy from your local tyre shop for less than they cost now.
The motor is the ZX10 from the ex Scrivy, Porteous (aus) bulit outfit. Multiple NZ & Aussie national title holder.

oh man, you beat me.


Out of curiosity, what happened to the old motor ? i remember it going quite well after I dialled the cams in....

I think its powering a cowshed in Ohaupo.

Nah, the guy pulled it out to put in his postie bike (kawasaki race bike, not a ct110)

[nodrog]

A guy in Ohaupo near Hamilton bought the whole outfit just for the motor to put in some Kawasaki pre '89 bike.
Thought he said ZX10, but could be wrong.
I found the chassis accidentaly while looking for some 35mm CR's that I think you gave me a lead on.
Ended up buying new ones, but saved this chassis from being scrapped in the process.

ffs, are your typing fingers on P?

[Grumph]

A guy in Ohaupo near Hamilton bought the whole outfit just for the motor to put in some Kawasaki pre '89 bike.
Thought he said ZX10, but could be wrong.
I found the chassis accidentaly while looking for some 35mm CR's that I think you gave me a lead on.
Ended up buying new ones, but saved this chassis from being scrapped in the process.

Well the new owner is going to get a surprise if he ever checks the cam timing...lol.
Kick may share the excitement of the first run after they were done....

[Fast Eddie]

1 rim is no good to you, you may as well give it to me.

:motu: nah its my front wheel. it makes the steering lighter ;) I need it.

[sidecar bob]

maybe someone can fill in for me until I arrive at the track.. I assume my bike will be there waiting for me :)

W.T.F?? No, its only going as far as my workshop, I thought you were driving down to get it.
Oh shit, that throws a spanner in the works.;)

[Fast Eddie]

saved this chassis from being scrapped in the process.

good man! :2thumbsup

[Fast Eddie]

W.T.F?? No, its only going as far as my workshop, I thought you were driving down to get it.
Oh shit, that throws a spanner in the works.;)

arg.. my heart actually started beating faster..

haha, wildman did offer tow and trailer though :D

[sidecar bob]

ffs, are your typing fingers on P?

I was picturing you having a romantic dinner with your Mrs, so thought I would help out with some answers. Sorry for stealing your thunder big guy.

[scrivy]

I see you've ditched the 12 year + old tyres, few bits of tube been cut off and looks like master cylinder mount swapped back across to the left. There's a hole in the chassis where a crossover for the gear change used to run, did the later motor bolt up to the earlier mounts? front one looks a bit more substantial than what was on there

You could see all that from the blurry pics?? :eek5:

[sidecar bob]

arg.. my heart actually started beating faster..

haha, wildman did offer tow and trailer though :D

You better Give Karl (krackers) passenger of #77 a big hug, hes putting it behind his Commodore.

[nodrog]

I was picturing you having a romantic dinner with your Mrs, so thought I would help out with some answers. Sorry for stealing your thunder big guy.

Lol, steal away bro, you did all the hard work. (with the rig not my missus)

[Fast Eddie]

You better Give Karl (krackers) passenger of #77 a big hug, hes putting it behind his Commodore.

choooice :yes:

[scrivy]

You better Give Karl (krackers) passenger of #77 a big hug, hes putting it behind his Commodore.

I thought I was riding it up in the dark on Friday night??? That's what we agreed on............;)

Hee hee... many a time race bikes have gotten to the track at night, without a trailer......

[Drew]

hes putting it behind his Commodore.So, he needs to get someone sorted to tow it from wherever the commonwhore shits itself?

[Kickaha]

What would you know about changing those tyres? They were last replaced when you were about twelve.:facepalm:
Rear was replaced a lot more recently than that, it's had two in the last decade, front and side were still the same though

I swapped the master cylinders inboard as they probably cost more than I payed for the chassis, and I dont want to rip them off going around the outside of scrivy at turn 1 at hampsters.
Should have just got some $28 m/c from a brake place, Goober proved on his old bike expensive shit didn't work any better

I need a steering dampner, I have the arms of an 8 year old girl.
Get rid of it and get a 10 year old girl to ride it, they'd probably be faster anyway

1 rim is no good to you, you may as well give it to me (lets call it rent for sleeping in my van) :sunny: And I believe they are 3 piece Halliday rims, and Warrick is right, they are a prick to change tyres on until you get your missus with the reacharound fisting action to help.
No good to you either, centre and offset are way different, the wheels could be fixed by buying anohter rim half with a proper well

Well the new owner is going to get a surprise if he ever checks the cam timing...lol.
Kick may share the excitement of the first run after they were done....
Different motor, we swapped it out for one that was even more modified, they both went pretty well though

You could see all that from the blurry pics?? :eek5:
I spent a couple of seasons on it and rode it a few times so even with the incredibly shit photography the differences are easy to spot

You better Give Karl (krackers) passenger of #77 a big hug
Fuck that'd be funny, they're both about the same size

[scrivy]

I swapped the master cylinders inboard as they probably cost more than I payed for the chassis, and I dont want to rip them off going around the outside of scrivy at turn 1 at hampsters.
Choice bro!! Now you've put them inboard, I'll come up from behind and mount your deck - done it before!!! Down front straight at Puke, eh Bob!!
The motor has righthand side gear shaft (actually it goes both ways). :crazy: Sounds like Darren Pate!!

I need a steering dampner, I have the arms of an 8 year old girl. Bob reckons the balls too... :lol:


Legend Andrew Scrivener might know a little bit about it, I think it used to belong to him at some stage. Never seen it before...... ;)
It was slow then, and it'll be even slower now...........



1 rim is no good to you, you may as well give it to me (lets call it rent for sleeping in my van) Who's van?? :sunny: And I believe they are 3 piece Halliday rims, and Warrick is right, they are a prick to change tyres on until you get your missus with the reacharound fisting action to help.

You get a fisting from your missus??? :drool::wacko::eek5:

[scrivy]

Rear was replaced a lot more recently than that, it's had two in the last decade, front and rear were still the same though
You trying to confuse us??? Rear was replaced - but is still the same??? You fucken mainlanders crack me up!!!

Fuck that'd be funny, they're both about the same size

What???? Height, guts, fingers, sidecar size, penis length??
Do you think we've got ESP??? :pinch:

[sidecar bob]

You get a fisting from your missus??? :drool::wacko::eek5:

We discovered yesterday that Tina has very small hands. She was the only one that could get her hand through the centre hole to put the nuts on the rim.
Then some clever electrician that was watching, suggested it would have been easier if the wheel was up on wooden blocks.

[bucket boy]

. The frame needed to be modified to clear the carbs, and the front oil line.and weld up all the cracks around the frame,weld in new bits to hang on to and weld up where it looked like termites had started eating steal.

Sounds like a lot of work.

[Kickaha]

What???? Height, guts, fingers, sidecar size, penis length??
Do you think we've got ESP??? :pinch:I meant front and side fuckya

[scrivy]

We discovered yesterday that Tina has very small hands. She was the only one that could get her hand through the centre hole to put the nuts on the rim. Are Gordys nuts metric or BSF???
Then some clever electrician that was watching, suggested it would have been easier if the wheel was up on wooden blocks.

You dumb ass!!! You watched me doing the exact same thing 6 weeks ago at your workshop....... on 20 ltr polypails so it was up nice and high.....
:brick::brick::brick:

[scrivy]

I meant front and side fuckya

One to Scrivy, none to Kick :lol:

[scrivy]

and weld up where it looked like termites had started eating steel.


Kick said he'd ridden it and swung on it. Sure Kick hadn't eaten bits of it?? He's a fat fucker.............. :wacko: Heard he sticks anything in his mouth........ :yes:

[Kickaha]

Heard he sticks anything in his mouth........ :yes:
Nothing of yours or Bobs or Daves or anyone else of you gay cunts

[scrivy]

Nothing of yours or Bobs or Daves

Ok, just proves we're not bent, but also leaves about 2 million other men in NZ!!! You bent bastard!!! :killingme

Scrivy 2, Kick 0

[Kickaha]

Ok, just proves we're not bent, but also leaves about 2 million other men in NZ!!! You bent bastard!!! :killingme

Scrivy 2, Kick 0
Comprehension is not your strong point is it

[jellywrestler]

Ok, just proves we're not bent, but also leaves about 2 million other men in NZ!!! You bent bastard!!! :killingme

Scrivy 2, Kick 0

i reckon Kick would be the chicken and scrivy would be the rooster...

[scrivy]

i reckon Kick would be the chicken and scrivy would be the rooster...

You got it in one (sort of) Kick is a chicken..... and I am a rooster (although not a big cock!!!!) :weep::lol:

[sidecar bob]

Had a call from Burt tonight. The passenger he had lined up for Cemetary Circiut has other engagments (on a different sidecar) so burt is looking for a passenger, hopefully with prior Cem Circ experience.
P.M me if avaliable & I will give you Burts contact details.
He is a steady & safe competitor that dosent ride like a fuckwit.

[Kornholio]

i reckon Kick would be the chicken and scrivy would be the rooster...

Does that make Gordie the egg??....

[scrivy]

Does that make Gordie the egg??....
More like KFC........ Skinny - tiny boned, greasy, stinky, but I wouldn't lick my fingers after touching him!!
I dare not say he comes in a greasy box...... :pinch: for fear of my life...... :whistle:

[nodrog]

You get a fisting from your missus??? :drool::wacko::eek5:

yeah, and?


Does that make Gordie the egg??....

You just jealous you dont get Layed?


..... but I wouldn't lick my fingers after touching him!!...... :whistle:

Just sniff them aye?


Well my deck is off at the apolestirrers getting done, and I got some bits off my chum, so I suppose I should be in the shed.

[Kickaha]

Well my deck is off at the apolestirrers getting done, and I got some bits off my chum, so I suppose I should be in the shed.

Upholstery? fucking hell, how soft are the swingers up there

[nodrog]

Upholstery? fucking hell, how soft are the swingers up there

Its all about comfort :2thumbsup

[scrivy]

Upholstery? fucking hell, how soft are the swingers up there

Kick, now come on.... We know you've got 2 inches of padded wad put into your leathers............... and they're silk lined ya big foof!!
(and not in the crotch area either......) :lol:

[Kickaha]

We know you've got 2 inches of padded wad put into your leathers...............

That's just my stomach

[Fast Eddie]

I dare not say he comes in a greasy box......

must spread more rep..

I hope I get setup for a KFC type joke in the future, gonna nail it.

[Kickaha]

Its all about comfort :2thumbsup

Fucken hell Kai, I hope Phil isn't reading this or he'll want the same as the poofs up North

[Fast Eddie]

Same, because he brought home some yellow fabric shit and was laying it out over the tail :oi-grr:

gotta crush that idea

[Kickaha]

Same, because he brought home some yellow fabric shit and was laying it out over the tail :oi-grr:
gotta crush that idea

Yeah, that would just be to much yellow

Any word on entries for the Cemetery circuit? are there enough? if not how many more are needed and by when?

[Fast Eddie]

I just gotta buy return tickets home after the barry sheene for phil and I next week and then week after I'll put my entry in for cemetery circuit..

no idea on numbers.. I'm guessing 0 at the mo lol need 15??

[Henk]

Yeah, that would just be to much yellow


Lavender would set the yellow off nicely.

[scrivy]

I'll put my entry in for cemetery circuit..

no idea on numbers.. I'm guessing 0 at the mo lol need 15??

I put mine in and paid yesterday :yes:
(errr......... cemetery circuit - not some slapper...)

[scrivy]

Yeah, that would just be to much yellow

Any word on entries for the Cemetery circuit? are there enough? if not how many more are needed and by when?

You gunna swing for Burt at Wangas???:drool:
I see pigster viewing the thread........ You boys coming up North??

[sidecar bob]

Any word on entries for the Cemetery circuit? are there enough? if not how many more are needed and by when?

Several entries have already been recieved. We have until Nov 2nd until close of entry. The organisers will meet with a NZSRA representative the week following the Barry Sheene, at which point we will be in a better position to judge who has blown up & who has tipped over.
We WILL be racing at Wanganui, so get your entries in!!
Kick, I have been requested to ask if you could be in reserve to swing for Chris L at the Bazza, as there is a worry that Ritchie may not go the distance as he is recovering from surgery.

[scrivy]

Kick, I have been requested to ask if you could be in reserve to swing for Chris L at the Bazza, as there is a worry that Ritchie may not go the distance as he is recovering from surgery.

Dude, there is a worry that you won't go the distance at the BSTT!! :killingme

Saying that, I'm a bit out of shape too............. :weep:
Hang on, fat is a shape................ ;)

[Pigster]

You gunna swing for Burt at Wangas???:drool:
I see pigster viewing the thread........ You boys coming up North??
Yip 95% chance, will have decision made after KOR this weekend after Kick talks us into it. Intend to do full Nat points as well, never done Hampton or Taupo so am looking forward to that. What are the track pies like up there.

[nodrog]

Dude, there is a worry that you won't go the distance at the BSTT!! :killingme

Saying that, I'm a bit out of shape too............. :weep:
Hang on, fat is a shape................ ;)

the busa looks good with its new paint job


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wJLUnSa-0bw/S65cgHpFdvI/AAAAAAAAADA/Zhhdkmyf4i0/S760/MainCoolCycleUnitAd-solidblue.jpg

[scrivy]

the busa looks good with its new paint job

SWEET!!! I hadn't seen it before that!! Too much!! It'll get noticed!! :killingme

[scrivy]

Yip 95% chance, will have decision made after KOR this weekend after Kick talks us into it. Intend to do full Nat points as well, never done Hampton or Taupo so am looking forward to that. What are the track pies like up there.

Too much!! Good shit bro!! The tracks are awesome, and the pies...... well, Kicks coming north just to add 20 kgs to his padded wadding......:lol:
Free entry for any South Island sidecars to the BSTT too!!:yes:

[Kickaha]

You gunna swing for Burt at Wangas???:drool:
I see pigster viewing the thread........ You boys coming up North??

Sorting it out this weekend, if Dave isn't going I will swing for Kai

Goober and Pig are keen but so fucking useless it takes them over a year to make a brake pedal and change some handlebars

[Kickaha]

Kick, I have been requested to ask if you could be in reserve to swing for Chris L at the Bazza, as there is a worry that Ritchie may not go the distance as he is recovering from surgery.

Yeah should be ok, I better start getting some exercise, I'm getting tired just thinking about it

Hmmmm just thinking what Chris did to Richie what's he going to do someone who isn't family?

[scrivy]

Yeah should be ok, I better start getting some exercise, I'm getting tired just thinking about it
Hmmmm just thinking what Chris did to Richie what's he going to do someone who isn't family?

WTF??? You keep harping on about how much racing you do down there...... you racing to the pie shop or sumpin??:killingme
You should be race fit...?? We're all good to go..... :eek5:

You not cock related to Chris??

[Kickaha]

WTF??? You keep harping on about how much racing you do down there...... you racing to the pie shop or sumpin??:killingme
You should be race fit...?? We're all good to go..... :eek5:

How much racing"we can do" there is a small difference, doesn't mean I've been doing it

On the outfit for the first time in about 6 months this weekend which is better than Pigster whose been out once in the last 4 years, he'll be even more fucked than me

[Fast Eddie]

if Dave isn't going I will swing for Kai


chur, i'll need a swinger cause phil can't make the wangas street race.

[scrivy]

On the outfit for the first time in about 6 months this weekend which is better than Pigster whose been out once in the last 4 years, he'll be even more fucked than me

Doubt it!! You were fucked when you were born...... :killingme:lol::girlfight:

[sidecar bob]

Yeah should be ok, I better start getting some exercise, I'm getting tired just thinking about it

Hmmmm just thinking what Chris did to Richie what's he going to do someone who isn't family?

Dude, its a long chair. My nanna volunteered to do it, but the people at the old folks home said they were worried she would nod off & hurt herself.

[scrivy]

Dude, its a long chair. My nanna volunteered to do it, but the people at the old folks home said they were worried she would nod off & hurt herself.

Pmsl!!!!!! Thats the best comeback on this thread!!

[scrivy]

Yip 95% chance, will have decision made after KOR this weekend after Kick talks us into it.

Just imagine beating kick up north too!

[Kickaha]

Just imagine beating kick up north too!

Wont happen, not up North , not down South, not anywhere

Just did 2000m on the rowing machine at a pace that would have 5 year old laughing at me, that's my exercise for the week

[Shorty_925]

Whats with Triumph sidecars here and overseas? Is it the only way they turn? Check the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHrU-sBTSvk

[Pigster]

Wont happen, not up North , not down South, not anywhere

Just did 2000m on the rowing machine at a pace that would have 5 year old laughing at me, that's my exercise for the week
Exercise is for Homos. How did ya get on at the paralympics last month.

[Kickaha]

Electric 216mph sidecar http://cmgonline.com/news/2012/09/17/electric-hack-almost-beats-sidecar-top-speed-record/

And knocked off from Bikesport news

By John Watterson
Image by Alan Horner

Michael Dunlop was so captivated by his sidecar debut at Oliver's Mount that he pulled out of one of the superbike races after a single lap, explaining: 'The chairs are more fun.'

Dunlop, who has multiple TT winner Dan Sayle as passenger, got quicker every time he went out on Nick Crowe's LCR Honda, working hard to bring down his lap times, ultimately going sub-two minutes for the tight and demanding 2.43-mile woodland course.

“Despite a lot of slagging before the event from various individuals, Michael was as safe as houses,' said Sayle. "He went onto the grass once at the Monument and he struggled to get the hang of the bumps, but otherwise he was spot on."

For more on this story and four pages of Scarbrough Gold Cup coverage, get the new issue of Bikesport News, on sale Thursday
http://www.bikesportnews.com/images/sitecontent/news/8022-art.jpg

[sidecar bob]

Electric 216mph sidecar http://cmgonline.com/news/2012/09/17/electric-hack-almost-beats-sidecar-top-speed-record/

And knocked off from Bikesport news

By John Watterson
Image by Alan Horner

Michael Dunlop was so captivated by his sidecar debut at Oliver's Mount that he pulled out of one of the superbike races after a single lap, explaining: 'The chairs are more fun.'

Dunlop, who has multiple TT winner Dan Sayle as passenger, got quicker every time he went out on Nick Crowe's LCR Honda, working hard to bring down his lap times, ultimately going sub-two minutes for the tight and demanding 2.43-mile woodland course.

“Despite a lot of slagging before the event from various individuals, Michael was as safe as houses,' said Sayle. "He went onto the grass once at the Monument and he struggled to get the hang of the bumps, but otherwise he was spot on."

For more on this story and four pages of Scarbrough Gold Cup coverage, get the new issue of Bikesport News, on sale Thursday
http://www.bikesportnews.com/images/sitecontent/news/8022-art.jpg

Sidecars, one, superbikes nil. Great result!!!

[scrivy]

Wont happen, not up North , not down South, not anywhere
If they beat you at Hampsters, I'll pay their entry into Wangas!! :yes:

[Kickaha]

If they beat you at Hampsters, I'll pay their entry into Wangas!! :yes:
Couple of things

Those two useless cunts wont make Hampsters for a start

I wont be racing with Dave at Hampsters


Sidecars, one, superbikes nil. Great result!!!
That's what I thought to, while perhaps not up there with Micky D,Dennis Charlett had a ride of Daves down here last year and loved it, get a couple of guys like him entering the class and maybe a few others would take notice

[Fast Eddie]

Dennis Charlett had a ride of Daves down here last year and loved it, get a couple of guys like him entering the class and maybe a few others would take notice

its no LCR but D Charlett could take mine for a race or two :) might get him keen to buy one and race with his mrs, she had a go at swinging eh?

[nodrog]

orange is the new black

[scrivy]

orange is the new black

I thought lime green is.......?

[Drew]

You're all fags. Matt black is the new black!

[Kickaha]

This shows how that guy went over the front, always make sure you have a chair guard:rolleyes:

http://youtu.be/xsGPVQQQLUg

[Kickaha]

Classic sidecar porn
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544853_244787788959996_1112843845_n.jpg
This has 4 valve heads made from an old drawing by Phil Irvine

[Grumph]

Now that's a fork brace....Funny, I always understood that Vincent Girdraulics were pretty stiff torsionally, someone obviously disagrees..
I assume the front mudguard mount is also a lifting point as it's obviously meaty enough.

Looking at that reminds me, I turned down a ride on Les Dwight Snr's speedway Vinnie in 1970...and every speedway chair offered since.

[Fast Eddie]

oo haha, had to take a second look to see the chair wheel was open.. slingshot!

[scrivy]

This shows how that guy went over the front, always make sure you have a chair guard:rolleyes:

....and the most impressive thing that I noticed in that clip, was that even at world championship level racing, they are too fucking stupid to stop the race until all the people are off the side of the track.
I mean FFS!!! There were about 16 people standing there while chairs were going past at speed.....
Imagine emergency workers getting taken out while helping someone on the edge of the track!

Absolutely inexcusable!

Rant over........

[Fast Eddie]

whats even worse is having french commentary blasted loudly over the speaker system.

just awful

[scrivy]

whats even worse is having french commentary blasted loudly over the speaker system.

just awful

Nah, worst is that they were long bikes............. :bleh::baby:

[Kickaha]

Nah, worst is that they were long bikes............. :bleh::baby:

Shows the French aren't all bad then as they run the right type of bikes at their events, instead of some antiquated design that first saw light of day 60-70+ years ago

[Drew]

Shows the French aren't all bad thenNo, but that statement says a lot about you.

[nodrog]

....and the most impressive thing that I noticed in that clip, was that even at world championship level racing, they are too fucking stupid to stop the race until all the people are off the side of the track.
I mean FFS!!! There were about 16 people standing there while chairs were going past at speed.....
Imagine emergency workers getting taken out while helping someone on the edge of the track!

Absolutely inexcusable!

Rant over........

Sounds like you need a cuddle?

1 MORE SLEEP!

[scrivy]

Sounds like you need a cuddle?

1 MORE SLEEP!

1 more sleep, and you will get a cuddle...................:banana::lol:

Got my stopwatch a new batttery to time you around Taupo on the BMW!!

[Kickaha]

Got my stopwatch a new batttery to time you around Taupo on the BMW!!

Why not just take a calendar?

[Kornholio]

1 more sleep, and you will get a cuddle...................:banana::lol:

Got my stopwatch a new batttery to time you around Taupo on the BMW!!

You could probably use a calendar :D

[Fast Eddie]

:rolleyes: haha

[scrivy]

Gordy, they're taking the piss out of you...! Like i said to you before, I've got a 5200 year Mayan calendar I'm taking out there.....
But...... You probably will run out of fuel first...... Or die of old age......

[scrivy]

Nah..... I reckon you'll smash the classic record at Taupo......

[scrivy]

Pee hee hee..... That was taking the piss. I'm learning how to do this......

[PirateJafa]

Blast, looks like I've run out of sticky mounts for my GoPro. Oh well, see you guys at Taupo! :headbang:

[nodrog]

Atleast team bmw will win best presented. I have Schindlers Fist in the back of my van, its so pretty i had to bring it to work and pretend its mine.

[scrivy]

Atleast team bmw will win best presented. I have Schindlers Fist in the back of my van, its so pretty i had to bring it to work and pretend its mine.

You crash it - it will be yours!!!! :bleh::lol::clap:

[Kickaha]

You crash it - it will be yours!!!! :bleh::lol::clap:

Well I'd rather he got his crashing over with before I get on it

Flat out training for the event, dropped to only 2 x 1.5L bottles of coke a day and walk to the mailbox and back once a day

[Kickaha]

2002 Ireson £8,500 ono http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=44446

2012 Eastern Airways British F1 F1 Sidecars Round 6 Full Program 48 minutes long
http://www.2wheelstv.com/tv-channel/watch/2012~eastern-airways-british-f1~f1-sidecars~round-6~full-program

[sidecar bob]

You crash it - it will be yours!!!! :bleh::lol::clap:

He's talking about the two wheeler R90/6. Sidechair is in my van, solo is in his.

[Fast Eddie]

Atleast team bmw will win best presented. I have Schindlers Fist in the back of my van, its so pretty i had to bring it to work and pretend its mine.
pics..

lol @ schindlers fist.


Flat out training for the event, dropped to only 2 x 1.5L bottles of coke a day and walk to the mailbox and back once a day

haha, im on about 3 litres of milk a day (love milk) and walk from front door to shed and back at least 3 or 4 times a day. Should be in prime condition to manage 5-7 laps.

dunno bout phil, hes just a personal trainer with a gym in his garage so he's probably gonna be a bit out of shape the lazy git

[sidecar bob]

pics..

lol @ schindlers fist.



There will be pics after the weekend.
The fist is looking great in BMW Golf yellow with black pinstripes, a crazy color they painted 3.0 CSL & 2002 BMWs in the early '70's.

[scrivy]

I have Schindlers Fist in the back of my van

WTF??? Sounds like you said you go in there to spank your monkey??? :lol:

[scrivy]

2002 Ireson £8,500 ono http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=44446


That guy must be awesome!!! He runs my number............. :cool:

[nodrog]

No more sleeps Scrivy!

[scrivy]

No more sleeps Scrivy!

No more bullshit tomorrow too!!! The clock it is a ticking............... :clap:

[scrivy]

No more sleeps Scrivy!

Since I'm not racing tomorrow, I'm on the turps......
Bob said he's gunna Shindlers Fist ya when you're written off tonight!!!:shutup::buggerd:

[Kickaha]

Couple of good articles here for download http://www.stevesplace.org/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=32:magazine-downloads

[Fast Eddie]

That guy must be awesome!!! He runs my number............. :cool:

thats just your age in'nit?

[Drew]

thats just your age in'nit?Reckon this guy needs to do a few laps beside you at your old man pace Andy?

[Fast Eddie]

recon this guy ^ needs to get a sidecar so he can just do a lap.

[Kickaha]

Back on the side tomorrow for only the second time this year, I'm getting tired just thinking about it:sleep:

[Fast Eddie]

Back on the side tomorrow for only the second time this year, I'm getting tired just thinking about it:sleep:

finally! goober not makin it tho huh?

we welded up exhaust today, should be all in good shape tmoro.

[Kickaha]

finally! goober not makin it tho huh?

we welded up exhaust today, should be all in good shape tmoro.

No, they have about 10 minutes work real time which translates into about 2-3 months Goober and Pig time

[Drew]

recon this guy ^ needs to get a sidecar so he can just do a lap.
No doubt...

[scrivy]

Back on the side tomorrow for only the second time this year, I'm getting tired just thinking about it:sleep:

Ya big Foof!!! :baby:

Well, the mighty BMW and Gordy did their first day of practice yesterday around Taupo. He broke the lap record too!!! The record for most pees before going out!!! :lol:

Nah, it's still in one piece, and Tracey is too.......... But.............. today it's angry mode...............

Anyone fancy some free beers tonight??? :banana::cool::bleh:

[tail_end_charlie]

Managed to get down to Taupo on Saturday and had a go swinging on the BMW rig with Gordy. Pretty freakin' cool. Thanks to Steve, Gordy and Scrivy (sorry man, managed to forget your real name:facepalm:) for the opportunity and advice; as well as Tracey for actually showing how its done.

And a big thanks to Gordy for not throwing my ass off at some point around the track. He probably spent more time looking back to figure out where the hell I was, rather than watching were he was going.:niceone: Still, pretty smooth and steady which was good. I'd be keen on another go given the opportunity.

[Kickaha]

Thanks to Steve, Gordy and Scrivy (sorry man, managed to forget your real name:facepalm:)
We normally just call him COCK

Ya big Foof!!! :baby:
fuck doing it was way worse than thinking about it, two laps with that rough cunt hereafter known as Kai and I was fucked, I've spent the last 4 years on one outfit and I couldn't find handles and shit was in the wrong place, got Kai to pull in after two to discuss a couple of corners then headed back out only to have the airbox fall off :lol:

Did race 1 with grant on the Windle, exact same motor as Daves but the power delivery feels way nicer, couldn't find the right handside handles on that fucker either :rolleyes:

Kai/Phil and the pensioner/Glen were both riding pretty good

[scrivy]

Thanks to Steve, Gordy and Scrivy (sorry man, managed to forget your real name:facepalm:)
Errr....... that'll be Scrivy....... :2thumbsup

And a big thanks to Gordy for not throwing my ass off at some point around the track. He probably spent more time looking back to figure out where the hell I was, rather than watching were he was going.:niceone: Still, pretty smooth and steady which was good. I'd be keen on another go given the opportunity.

'pretty smooth and steady'................. WTF???? You sure you swung with Gordy??? Dude, there was more agitation going on with the throttle on that thing than in my washing machine!!!!
:lol::bleh:

Mind you, I did tell Gordy at the start of the weekend to try his hardest to spit Tracey off - so we all had free beers............. and he tried damn hard.....
Tracey must be way better than Kick then!!! :first:

[Kickaha]

Tracey must be way better than Kick then!!! :first:

Lots of people are, doesn't bother me in the slightest :bleh:

[scrivy]

We normally just call him GOD....

fuck doing it was way worse than thinking about it, two laps with that rough cunt hereafter known as Kai and I was fucked, I've spent the last 4 years on one outfit and I couldn't find handles and shit was in the wrong place, got Kai to pull in after two to discuss a couple of corners then headed back out only to have the airbox fall off :lol:

Did race 1 with grant on the Windle, exact same motor as Daves but the power delivery feels way nicer, couldn't find the right handside handles on that fucker either :rolleyes:

Kai/Phil and the pensioner/Glen were both riding pretty good

Seriously????? I mean seriously?????? No piss take intended......
Bob goes from the BMW, to Traceys F2, to Chris Lawrances long bike, to the Busa, and back again, and he does it effortlessly! Just shows you that he is a finely tuned athlete! Or a slut....... actually I'm picking a slut...............

Hmmmm............. me thinks there will be beers aplenty at Humpty dumpty on Labour weekend..... :beer:

[scrivy]

Lots of people are, doesn't bother me in the slightest :bleh:

Oh really???? Well everyone reckoned even I was betterererer than you.................... :killingme:bleh:




Seriously!!!!

:rolleyes::scratch:

...and I fucken suck at passengering..... :pinch::yes:

[Kickaha]

Seriously????? I mean seriously?????? No piss take intended......
Depends, on the Windle I was ok as it's not far off the LCR, but even racing solos I take a long time to adapt to different bikes where as a couple of mates can hop on anything and ride them hard

Hmmmm............. me thinks there will be beers aplenty at Humpty dumpty on Labour weekend..... :beer:
Who ever is shouting them better add some cokes for me

[scrivy]

... where as a couple of mates can hop on anything and ride them hard
Err............. talking about Bob again??? He's married now, so no more hoping on anything else anymore........


Who ever is shouting them better add some cokes for me
Make sure you've got a fair bit of spare cash then bro......:dodge:

[scrivy]

Who ever is smoking them better add some cocks for me

:rolleyes::whistle: There ya go, fixed the grammar for ya...... :lol:

[tail_end_charlie]

'pretty smooth and steady'................. WTF???? You sure you swung with Gordy??? Dude, there was more agitation going on with the throttle on that thing than in my washing machine!!!!
:lol::bleh:

Well, guess I don't have anything to compare it to, so the mere fact that the damn thing didn't spin out or flip over meant to me that it was "smooth and steady".:innocent: I'm sure it looked like shit from the stands, but hey, blame it on the swinger right?!? :2thumbsup

[Kickaha]

but hey, blame it on the swinger right?!? :2thumbsup
The riders get the glory the swingers get the blame

[scrivy]

The riders get the glory the swingers get the blame

Absolutely Kick, the riders get the whole glory..........................

oh, bear with..................

I mean't Glory hole...................... :spanking:

[PirateJafa]

Ended up with two finishes and two DNFs due to electrical gremlins, which were mildly disappointing but well made up for with the last two races. However the highlight of the weekend was definitely getting to take Blackadder out on Saturday evening as a rider for half a dozen laps. Damn, I'm hooked!

If I can find a swinger, I should be at Hampton Downs too! :rockon:

[scrivy]

If I can find a swinger, I should be at Hampton Downs too! :rockon:

That's the attitude!!! :2thumbsup

[scrivy]

Willy and Julie had their first DNF in todays last sidecar race.
I think it should be in the record books too! They have done just over 130 races without a DNF!!! That in itself is a record, but maybe a record for a Triumph engine too?

You guys rock as a team. A real inspiration to anyone that loves racing. Fast, and crowd pleasers!! :2thumbsup:not::not:

[Kickaha]

If I can find a swinger, I should be at Hampton Downs too! :rockon:
What outfit do you have?

[Fast Eddie]

Where you other fellas on the classics today?

Had a pretty awesome day today as usual, bike looking tight in its new colors we rocked up fairly early and set up.. Kick agreed to come on for practice qualifying.. did a couple laps before he corrected some of my lines and then tried to go out again but airbox fell off and also the oil catch tray fell off (sadly these were both parts we specifically worked on last night while repairing exhaust, gave the oil catch tray an extra couple bolts that were missing and used some extra tie wire to hold airbox down) anyway.. we got the parts back on properly next time around.

First race started ok, good off the line compared to rest but then got stuck in 1st gear.. took a couple of attempts to grab 2nd gear and by then i was in 3rd place.. harris bike was being piloted by a couple first timers so for once I wasn't the slowest :D tried to grab onto the back of AJ but the bike was handling real strange and was wrestling with it. By the last lap swinger is tapping me frantically and looking scared while pointing at the wheels. I finished the race naturally, and later found out the wheel nuts had come very.. very loose. mmmm...

2nd race was ok, we were a little worried that everything seemed to be falling off the bike so we just circulated around.. was ok, bike felt a bit better and started practicing some better lines that Kick told me to take.

Third race had got comfortable with kicks lines and we managed a 1:55 lap.. which we were happy with! and had a f*ckn blast on the last race!!

Good day all round.. Now its hampsters next on the calendar.. Awaiting bike tranz to pick the yella terra up.

The AGIP colors were a bit of a conversation starter through out the day too it was choice, even had the NZ Agip rep come up to me at end of the day and ask who I was and asked about the bike etc and said he'd make sure local Agip supplier will look after us (they already do, cheers TransDiesel CHCH) and got to yarn to a few ppl about the limited nz sidecar racing history I know (fuck all.. lol)

[PirateJafa]

What outfit do you have?

If Squiggles can confirm his availability, then we should be rocking up to Hampton Downs with the borrowed Blackadder (#128). If he can't, then I'm not sure what the plan B will be.

[Kickaha]

then we should be rocking up to Hampton Downs with Blackadder (#128).
errrrrrrrrrrrrr which is what? Classic? Modern? short? long? powered by what?

If he can't, then I'm not sure what the plan B will be.
Just turn up, there will be someone there who can do it

[PirateJafa]

errrrrrrrrrrrrr which is what? Classic? Modern? short? long? powered by what?
Apologies, it's a classic BSA A65-powered short tall-wheel sidecar.

[Kickaha]

Apologies, it's a classic BSA A65-powered short tall-wheel sidecar.

Power egg, Are the sidecars split into different age groups for the races or are the classics all in?

[Fast Eddie]

If Squiggles can confirm his availability, then we should be rocking up to Hampton Downs with the borrowed Blackadder (#128). If he can't, then I'm not sure what the plan B will be.

I could probably swing on a classic? I'd be happy to jump in between modern races if nothing else pans out :D (have never swung on a classic before, but have done a couple moderns)

[Henk]

Power egg, Are the sidecars split into different age groups for the races or are the classics all in?

According to the program they are split

[nodrog]

Managed to get down to Taupo on Saturday and had a go swinging on the BMW rig with Gordy. Pretty freakin' cool. Thanks to Steve, Gordy and Scrivy (sorry man, managed to forget your real name:facepalm:) for the opportunity and advice; as well as Tracey for actually showing how its done.

And a big thanks to Gordy for not throwing my ass off at some point around the track. He probably spent more time looking back to figure out where the hell I was, rather than watching were he was going.:niceone: Still, pretty smooth and steady which was good. I'd be keen on another go given the opportunity.

you did pretty good for your first crack at it, safe as. got a couple of photos of ya.

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Was a good weekend, apparently I have a sidecar to finish so I will do a race report when I get time.

Highlight of the weekend was captain shoutey with his UCM.

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look a wheelie!

[sidecar bob]

you did pretty good for your first crack at it, safe as. got a couple of photos of ya.

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Was a good weekend, apparently I have a sidecar to finish so I will do a race report when I get time.

Highlight of the weekend was captain shoutey with his UCM.

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look a wheelie!

That was a PMSL situation!!
The BMW solo has standard Staintune street mufflers on it & consequently, the loudest part of it is the wind noise, so it was suggested I should shout as i went past the stands at upward of 160k, to see if they could hear me. Yes, apparently they could hear me, over in the back paddock too.
UCM = upright cornering manuvere, something one becomes quite proficent in with two big fat cylnders poking out the side.
3rd in Open Modified class wasnt too bad an effort for a standard road bike minus lights though!!

[jellywrestler]

According to the program they are split

not according to this program!
http://www.barrysheenetranstasman.co.nz/event-details/2012-proposed-programme

[scrivy]

not according to this program!
http://www.barrysheenetranstasman.co.nz/event-details/2012-proposed-programme

Errr...... he meant the moderns and the classics....... :rolleyes:

[sidecar bob]

Errr...... he meant the moderns and the classics....... :rolleyes:

Well that was a let down, I thought you guys were talking about banana split, with snowfreeze & hundreds & thousands & chocolate sauce!!

[jellywrestler]

Power egg, Are the sidecars split into different age groups for the races or are the classics all in?


According to the program they are split


not according to this program!
http://www.barrysheenetranstasman.co.nz/event-details/2012-proposed-programme


Errr...... he meant the moderns and the classics....... :rolleyes:

well clearly HE couldn't read Kick's question then

[Fast Eddie]

Bit of footage of Kickaha out on the windle, first time out in a century wee while. And couple other clips from our sunday playtime. Harris bike was out there with iffy brakes and a rough clutch, we were out there in our yellow best, and the macdonald father son outfit trucking along nicely until the clutch cable snapped and they were slowed a little bit.

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[Kickaha]

Bit of footage of Kickaha out on the Windle
Fuck I was awesome

Harris bike was out there with iffy brakes
I thought he'd fixed them for about the fiftieth time

and the macdonald father son outfit trucking along nicely until the clutch cable snapped and they were slowed a little bit.
I think everyone was wondering what he was doing when he rolled through the start before the lights went out

[Kickaha]

Here you go kai, these might help you past that pensioner
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/performance/photos/a-515297937/p-225948247.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/47/225948247_full.jpg

[PirateJafa]

Bit of footage of Kickaha out on the windle, first time out in a century wee while. And couple other clips from our sunday playtime. Harris bike was out there with iffy brakes and a rough clutch, we were out there in our yellow best, and the macdonald father son outfit trucking along nicely until the clutch cable snapped and they were slowed a little bit.

The rear exits for the swinger looks rather easier than the front!

[Kickaha]

The rear exits for the swinger looks rather easier than the front!
Maybe Scrivy and Sidecarbob could convert the housebus to front exit and then report back

[Fast Eddie]

I thought he'd fixed them for about the fiftieth time
haha.. yup! on that video right at the end when AJ is catching up/overtaking the harris bike you can see a cloud of smoke come off the chair wheel. I see harris do that heaps. Maybe the bias is way out. Either way our brakes work sweet hehe.


I think everyone was wondering what he was doing when he rolled through the start before the lights went out yip I was wondering what he was up to as well haha.. oh dear, I bet the crowd was thinking typical sidecars.. messy bastards. if only that race had been 3 laps I might have had a 1st :D


Here you go kai, these might help you past that pensioner
**pic of some sweet carbies**
arg! that price tag :( tyres first and some more rider training then maaaaaybe try squeeze cheap power out. Grumph could prob do some magic with the motor? but then again.. could just save those pennies and buy a newer/lighter bike


Maybe Scrivy and Sidecarbob could convert the housebus to front exit and then report back
I wanna have a go!

[PirateJafa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDX571L0024

[nodrog]

Fuck I was awesome



fuck you are going to have to move faster than that boyo!

[Kickaha]

haha.. yup! on that video right at the end when AJ is catching up/overtaking the harris bike you can see a cloud of smoke come off the chair wheel. I see harris do that heaps. Maybe the bias is way out. Either way our brakes work sweet hehe.
It does that all the time into the right hander after the hairpin

arg! that price tag :( tyres first and some more rider training then maaaaaybe try squeeze cheap power out.
New tyres and learning to ride it better will get you more at this point than any HP increase

Oh yeah, talking about new tyres I found a brand new one in the garage the same as what you've got on the rear, you can have it for a pie and coke
I'm taking it to work tomorrow to strip it off the rim, so if Phil can get the rear wheel to me you could have it on for HD

[Kickaha]

fuck you are going to have to move faster than that boyo!

At HD the easiest track in the country to swing on?? I fucking doubt it, unless of course you're swerving erratically side to side across the entire width of the track the entire lap

[Fast Eddie]

Oh yeah, talking about new tyres I found a brand new one in the garage the same as what you've got on the rear, you can have it for a pie and coke


oo f*ckn legend! owe ya a couple pies and cokes now. Your catering at HD should be covered.

[Grumph]

arg! that price tag :( tyres first and some more rider training then maaaaaybe try squeeze cheap power out. Grumph could prob do some magic with the motor? but then again.. could just save those pennies and buy a newer/lighter bike


Kick's right - learn to ride it to it's max first. FZR's can be a bit peaky depending on what's been done to them...I can give you as much peak power with a better midrange if it's necessary but until you've had more time on it, don't bother.

[nodrog]

At HD the easiest track in the country to swing on?? I fucking doubt it, unless of course you're swerving erratically side to side across the entire width of the track the entire lap

Mint, free beer!

[scrivy]

fuck you are going to have to move faster than that boyo!

Dude, pot - kettle........

I thought your times were ok for Taupo.... until I just watched that video a page back......... :sleep:
The chichane at turns 9/10 was gone - so you could straight line it, and the end of the drag strip chicane was the fast esses - no big tyre bundle in the way........ :wait::facepalm:

Ya should've been 4 seconds faster............ :spanking:

[scrivy]

At HD the easiest track in the country to swing on?? I fucking doubt it, unless of course you're swerving erratically side to side across the entire width of the track the entire lap

Pee hee hee............ you summed Gordy up in 1 sentence......... :niceone::lol:

[Fast Eddie]

At HD the easiest track in the country to swing on?? I fucking doubt it, unless of course you're swerving erratically side to side across the entire width of the track the entire lap


Pee hee hee............ you summed Gordy up in 1 sentence..

tee hee....

[Fast Eddie]

Kick's right - learn to ride it to it's max first.

definitely, I think the bike can get around plenty quicker as it is, even without new tyres its got plenty more to give. Heaps still to learn.

[Fast Eddie]

two laps with that rough cunt hereafter known as Kai and I was fucked, I've spent the last 4 years on one outfit and I couldn't find handles and shit was in the wrong place, got Kai to pull in after two to discuss a couple of corners then headed back out only to have the airbox fall off :lol:

hehe, i was a bit erratic n rough on our first couple of laps.. despite the wheels, airbox and oil tray coming loose the bike felt mint with you on the chair.. probably why I forgot to give you a moment to get used to the bike and just started throwin it around as soon as we were on the track! oops :sleep:
next time I'll be more onto it.

[Drew]

definitely, I think the bike can get around plenty quicker as it is, even without new tyres its got plenty more to give. Heaps still to learn.

Has it had any motor work done since you had it or recently before you got it? (Warwick, you'd probably know more from before this guy got it).

I ask because the shit box we rode that was GSXR1100 powered, monstered your bike everywhere that throttle was applied, so there might actually be some power hiding there.

[nodrog]

Dude, pot - kettle........

I thought your times were ok for Taupo.... until I just watched that video a page back......... :sleep:
The chichane at turns 9/10 was gone - so you could straight line it, and the end of the drag strip chicane was the fast esses - no big tyre bundle in the way........ :wait::facepalm:

Ya should've been 4 seconds faster............ :spanking:

so a 1.22 is too slow?

[scrivy]

so a 1.22 is too slow?

An hour and 22 minutes is farken slow in anyones language......... :lol::clap:

Hey, at least it wasn't returned to Bob all bent........

Though it did come back in with gravel and grass on it...... :whistle::shifty:

[nodrog]

.....Though it did come back in with gravel and grass on it...... :whistle::shifty:

Motard Sidecars, its all the rage!

[scrivy]

Motard Sidecars, its all the rage!

Retard riders....... :banana::bleh:

[scrivy]

:Oi:Get off this friggin site and go work on ya chair!!! :mad:

[nodrog]

Retard riders....... :banana::bleh:

Is that IHC porn?

[Stirts]

:Oi:Get off this friggin site and go work on ya chair!!! :mad:

I concur!!

[sidecar bob]

I concur!!

Look at you concuring in your Pashmina. Hey I owe you some bruises seeing as Gordy bruised my missus. We counted 12 last night, & one was in a fairly odd place. I think theres some explaining to do.

[Fast Eddie]

Has it had any motor work done since you had it or recently before you got it?.

nah not that I know of, I started swinging on this bike a few years ago, i doubt the engine has had any modifications or tuning to it recently (or ever, i have some spare parts for it, all standard parts, standard ignition, standard carbs.. crap exhaust, crap airbox.) When I was swinging for AJ we eventually swapped to a long bike and then this bike was sitting in aj's shed until I bought it/paid it off over the first half of this year. I've def not done anything to it except fill it up with AGIP oil n brake fluid ;) and filled in some holes and breaks in the exhaust.

it gets monstered by all the other bikes under power.. but she's all right

[scrivy]

Hey I owe you some bruises seeing as Gordy bruised my missus. We counted 12 last night, & one was in a fairly odd place. I think theres some explaining to do.

Is the back of her head an odd place????
I can't think of any other place that you would think is odd???!!! :eek:
All the 'Norm' for you............. :banana:

[nodrog]

I put some oil in it before i came to work. The size of the puddle when i get home will dictate what im going to do in the morning.

[scrivy]

I put some oil in it before i came to work. The size of the puddle when i get home will dictate what im going to do in the morning.

Pics dude - updated pics.....

[scrivy]

I put some oil in it before i came to work. The size of the puddle when i get home will dictate what im going to do in the morning.

Breaking news - - -
Oil slick spotted in Tauranga Harbour.....
Stay tuned.....


:corn:

[nodrog]

It looks the same numbnuts, it just has oil in and under it.

[Kickaha]

Pee hee hee............ you summed Gordy up in 1 sentence......... :niceone::lol:
Cool, something to look forward to

Has it had any motor work done since you had it or recently before you got it? (Warwick, you'd probably know more from before this guy got it).
I ask because the shit box we rode that was GSXR1100 powered, monstered your bike everywhere that throttle was applied, so there might actually be some power hiding there.
Nope, nothing done to it since Jay rode it, Kai has had more time riding it than Jay ever got though

Retard riders....... :banana::bleh:
I thought they all were


Ok technical question time Scrivy (not that you know shit) Kai has problems on lefts with it understeering as the chair lifts, how does he fix it?

[Drew]

Nope, nothing done to it since Jay rode it, Kai has had more time riding it than Jay ever got though

True, but going off the lap times what I'm saying still stands. An FZR1000 should walk away from a GSXR1100, even if Leanne wasn't wrong in thinking it was big blocked. Particularly given how heavy that thing we rode was.

I'm all for listening to you guys about learning to ride them before making them faster, but in this case there might be an argument that it's not making even the standard power that it should be.

[Drew]

Ok technical question time Scrivy (not that you know shit) Kai has problems on lefts with it understeering as the chair lifts, how does he fix it?Tell the swinger to get his head forward. It's always the swingers fault!

I know nothing about chairs, but if it was a car, I'd be adding some pre-load to the rear spring.